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orlands

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Optimized Digestion and POIS
« on: September 03, 2019, 03:31:35 PM »
Hello guys. Please, this is just my point of view. I'm no doctor, I'm just a simple human being trying to help.

Ok, so the theory is that we are lacking stomach acid. So we can't digest protein, hence we can't breakdown food properly and we are defficient in every possible nutrient in the body, and no supplement will ever help, because it only creates more and more unbalances in the body.

Protein breaks down into aminoacids, such and tyrosine, taurine, that are pretty famous here in the forum. If we don't have enough aminoacids, it will be a disaster. So many conditions also may happen along with POIS, such as allergies, acid reflux, acne, candida, SIBO, white coated tongue and many other symptoms of the lack of the stomach acid.
Without acid, we can't digest food, but we also can't kill the pathogens like candida and the other ones the causes disbyoses.

Ok, so the question arises. How we can enhance the stomach acid to have access to the aminoacids, cholesterol and all the other good stuff?

We can take:
1) Wake up and drink one lemon with water
2) 2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar with water before meals
3) Drink ginger tea everyday
4) Use a lot of Himalayan salt (sodium in precursor to stomach acid)
5) Use the maximum Betaine HCL that you can take with your meals (all containing protein because we are deficient in aminoacids, so we focus on protein while on this protocol)
6) Supplementing lugol's iodine
7) Chew food very very well, to stimulate more stomach acid. It must be a ritual
8 ) Using enzymes like pancreatin to better break down food
9) Eating 10 eggs a day at least, while trying this, to really fix the aminoacids and good fats responsible to replenish the good stuff.

Then the question arises:
Why are we lacking stomach acid?
There are several reasons. If you went through surgeries, or had very brutal viral infections, or some poisonous vaccines, or took acid blockers many months, or just genetic, malrounishment, veganism. (PLEASE ITS MY POINT OF VIEW, DISAGREE IF YOU WANT)
We also lack salt and iodine through all our lifes. Pay attention if your parents have thyroid problem. This means your house lacks iodine and good salt, for sure, along with a diet full of toxins.

Pay attention: Only increasing stomach acid but not eating a LOT of protein, won't cure anything. This protocol will for sure enhance your testosterone levels, because testosterone if made from cholesterol and micronutrients.. So if you waste all your good nutrients in your orgasm, you will not have enough good stuff to replenish, because you don't have enough acid! Just imagine the huge amount of nutrition of consuming 10 eggs with perfect digestion. It's insane. Much better than any other pill is able to ever offer!! It's totally insane

While you are extremely deficient in aminoacids, until you have your fix, maybe it would be a good idea supplementing with tyrosine and taurine, and maybe sleeping 10 hours a day to increase your testosterone and dopamine levels.
Don't waste the little dopamine that you have by drinking coffee, playing videogames and other dopamine spikers, because you can't produce more, then you are screwed. Your body will ask for the nutrients to produce more, but it won't have.
Maybe you will have adrenal fatigue and a lot of stress, because your body doesn't have the right aminoacids to produce cortisol, adrenalin and the other stuff that your body needs to produce to deal with stress. It's a mess.. Just increase your stomach acid as fast as possible.

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« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 03:46:56 PM by orlands »

Nas

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2019, 07:14:40 PM »
My mother did suffer from thyroid issues to iodine deficiency, however did you follow the protocol yourself and got treated so you can jump into this conclusion?

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2019, 03:46:49 AM »
Hi

What do you think the lack of stomach aid in relation to sex/masturbate causing POIS?

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2019, 08:38:27 AM »
I will explain again brother, in another way. No problem.
You need stomacid to break down protein into aminoacids.
You need aminoacids to build neurotransmitters such as dopamine serotonin.
People claim the taurine helps them to heal POIS to a degree. It's just part of the puzzle.
taurine is an aminoacid. Tyrosine is an aminoacid.
You don't need to take taurine and tyrosine if you have perfect digestion, because taurine and tyrosine are abundant in foods.
POIS has to do with dopamine, taurine, tyrosine. Support this system and you will see great enhancements.
If you don't have an stomach that is acid enough, your enzyme Pepsin is not activated and your digestion is wasted. Without nutrient absorption, your whole body started failing.

I've been taking 1 capsule of betaine HCL for 1 year. It helped me a imensely. I can live again.
But I perceived that just 1 capsule of Betaine HCL is not enough. I need MORE enzymes, more acid, more Pepsin activation, more Pancreatin, to fully heal. To more I take, the better I feel. No more fatigue after Lunch, because my body is able to difgest everything easily with those tricks.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 08:47:03 AM by orlands »

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2019, 01:50:12 PM »
Don't abuse of digestive enzymes.
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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 04:23:44 PM »
Don't abuse of digestive enzymes.

why do you say that.  I am curious becuase i thinking of trying some.

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2019, 10:34:35 PM »
If you abuse of d.e. it might works like cortisone abuse, for pancreas:
your pancreas will be jobless and will become lazy. It's not impossible to think very long term usage might lead to pancreas cancer.
The good way is to start meals with raw vegetables/fruit and try sprouted cereals for enzyme stock.
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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2019, 05:59:23 PM »
Well, i started enzymes about 10 days a go, and started iodine 3 days a go 2 drops every day, i feel better 60-70%, not so much sulfur/sulfites/thiols sensitive anymore, i can eat anything again but in low quantities, i did ejaculate last night, and so far this first day is great with little symptoms,  will see next few days. Probably my amalgam in tooth which i removed did a wreck on my body, digestions enzymes and iodine in my case help big time.

I did try proteins before enzymes, like l-glutamat and other L's, and whey protein, and omg, symptoms was so strong i could not believe it, i immediately stopped, at that time i suspected at proteins not being digested like they should and started enzymes from twinlab and Iodine.

And one thing i find extremely helpful is fasting for 24-48 hours.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2019, 06:11:40 PM by Igy78 »

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2019, 09:55:39 PM »
I've been taking 1 capsule of betaine HCL for 1 year. It helped me a imensely. I can live again.
But I perceived that just 1 capsule of Betaine HCL is not enough. I need MORE enzymes, more acid, more Pepsin activation, more Pancreatin, to fully heal. To more I take, the better I feel. No more fatigue after Lunch, because my body is able to difgest everything easily with those tricks.

Hi Orlands, I like your theory, but have you talked to a doctor about it? Is there a good test for low stomach acid?

I also took Betaine HCL some time ago and it did make me feel better but it lasted only for a few days. I increased the dose but it didn't help. My diet contains a lot of protein so that can't be the problem.

Also, you may want to cut completely on soda, as it seems to have a very bad effect on stomach acid.
Male, INTJ. POIS symptoms: red eyes, ear-pain, anxiety, speech problems, pale/ugly skin, stiff neck, double chin, tinnitus, light sensitivity. POIS even after stimulation without O.

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2019, 05:53:14 AM »
I have Pois since 26 years and real digestive problems since 2 or 3 years...
I think theory of lack of acid/gastric liquids is good but it's hard to believe there is a link between both.

HLC Betaine helps me too a lot... (beets and quinoa are rich n betaine too).
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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2019, 12:47:22 PM »
Just for heads up,

I did talk to doctors about this matter and they convinced me that there isn't really such a thing as to increase stomachs "acidity" rather the stomach acid contains many enzymes that are responsible for breaking down different proteins. betain HCL, for example, is not enough by itself. You'd need many other enzymes to breakdown meat for instance.

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2019, 01:55:43 PM »
https://www.healthline.com/health/malabsorption
Malapsorbtion theories is allways intresting to me, SIBO... etc..

What did i tested:
1- Aple cider vineger- i did rapidly losed weight on cdier.
Not helped with digestive isues,
POIS, fatigue etc.

2. Iodine drops, only 1 drops of
100mcg of iodinea day-
resulted - incriesed metabolism and
again rapidly losing weight.
Not helped on fatigue, pois ,
muscules energy etc.

3. Digestive enzayms (twin lab),
result - when i am in pois, and tryed
thouse enzayms, i get nausea and then diarhea from this pills.

4. Ginger did nothing for my
pois, no inflamation relief,
no digestion improved,
no bloating relief,
When i combined hony
some carbs , ginger and milk,
that cobination lead me to rapidly
incriese in stomach acid and burning stomach, wich i usualy dont had.

5. What is intresting, when i am on
hard mode, 5 weeks for exemple,
my body complitly start to shuting down, go in weak state, digestion shuting down, it is like
body dont know that i eat
and need to start digestion,
food stayed in stomach undigested
(this is in pois days offen)
(torturing for me).
In this case, digestive enzayms sems to help.

Hi Nas, it is imposible to digest
protein properly without adequate
stomach acid.
But again- a lot of people haw
a digestion problems and no pois.
Dr-pois.

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2019, 08:27:29 AM »
Let's say a person drinks 2 cups of water with lunch.
The water's PH is around 7. The acid in our stomach is PH 1,5
When we mix both, the stomach will be more alkaline.
Don't drink water with meals! Never. Be well hydrated, but just not during meals.

Unfortunally, for people who are already skinny, lugols's iodine and Apple cider vinegar makes you lose weight like crazy. That's a fact. But, the workaround is to eat a lot. Like 10 eggs at dinner with lots of butter, coconut oil and olive oil.

Also, avoid porn, it will deplete your neurotransmitters. At least take some tyrosine afterwards, if you see it

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2019, 01:47:45 PM »
Water diluates stomach acid but in the other hand, insuffisant water in meal can be hard to digest too. A puree is easier to digest for example.
Too liquid is bad, not enough too.

10 eggs in a meal ... :D Simply impossible for me ! Eggs are liver-killers  !
« Last Edit: September 14, 2019, 01:49:30 PM by b_jim »
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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2019, 02:16:17 PM »
It's not only low stomach acid it's like the body switches to some sort of hibernation state. Low stomach acid, decreased motility, no appetite, no thirst etc.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2019, 10:48:41 AM by Muon »

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Re: My Theory of what cures POIS and how to solve it
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2019, 01:47:27 PM »
It seems ZINC is clearly a important cofactor of gastic acid.
Of course, zinc is a ingredient of semen. Interesting link.
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