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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by berlin1984 on February 25, 2025, 09:39:49 AM »
FYI I took this post:
If I could tell you in one sentence I would have done so, but you have to see the whole process to understand how it all comes together. I am not exactly sure how much hypoxia is involved, but ROS is a certain culprit and there is clearly a glycolytic shift in our metabolism partly due to mitochondrial dysfunction. Mitochondrial dysfunction itself may come about due to a variety of reasons (e.g. sepsis, senescence, autoimmunity, etc). If we consider the treatments that we, ME/CFS and long covid patients have used with some degree of success, then it is easy to see that HIF-1a regulation is majorly involved in disease control. It is especially interesting to see that post-exertional malaise (PEM) in long covid patients last for about a week, similarly to a POIS episode, when there is a back shift towards oxidative phosphorylation. However the tricarboxylic acid (TCA) cycle remains impaired with somewhat elevated glycolytic metabolites even at baseline. This is quite relevant from my point of view as I have POIS/CFS and this exactly could explain the difference between my acute (dominated by POIS) and chronic phases (dominated by CFS).

and pasted it into ChatGPT and asked it to dumb it down into easier language and summarize it to 3 sentences (twice):
Quote from: ChatGPT
The condition involves problems with how the body produces energy, often due to issues with the mitochondria. Some treatments for ME/CFS and long COVID focus on a protein called HIF-1a, which seems important for managing symptoms. The way energy shifts in the body during these conditions may explain the similarities between long COVID and POIS.

Maybe it's an option you put a tl;dr in front of your posts that contain an AI summary?
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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by demografx on February 25, 2025, 09:09:50 AM »

As I stated yesterday:
technical jargon can alienate readers

Alright! I won’t post about scientific matters in the future! It took away much of my time and I have more important things to do anyway. Hopefully our researchers are going to fully figure out POIS soon!

I can appreciat the effort you put into your posts, but this is a sulky attitude. In my everyday technical writing I also tend to overcomplicate things and go down endless rabbit holes of derivations. But most often brevity trumps endless elaborations, if you want to get a point across in scientific matters. As suggested earlier, in the future, you could restrict your posts to the key messages and put your intermediate reasonings into a text file attachment. This allows forum members to follow your arguments in-depth, if they wish.

Thank you, carlo_francesco.

There have been research studies that confirm the impact of technical jargon in forums with non-technical audiences:
   1.   Zimmermann & Jucks (2018): This study found that experts using less technical jargon in forums aimed at laypersons were perceived as more credible and trustworthy. Conversely, excessive jargon reduced perceived accommodation and trustworthiness when addressing non-expert audiences.
   2.   Galinsky’s Research (2022): This study suggested that jargon is often used to signal authority or status but can alienate audiences unfamiliar with the terms, reducing effective communication.
   3.   Cybercrime Forum Study (2023): Research on a cybercrime forum revealed that excessive use of jargon (argot) negatively correlated with user reputation, suggesting that simpler language fosters better engagement and trust.
These studies highlight the importance of tailoring language to the audience for effective communication in forums.
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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by carlo_francesco on February 25, 2025, 04:49:41 AM »
As I stated yesterday:
technical jargon can alienate readers

Alright! I won’t post about scientific matters in the future! It took away much of my time and I have more important things to do anyway. Hopefully our researchers are going to fully figure out POIS soon!

I can appreciate the effort you put into your posts, but this is a sulky attitude. In my everyday technical writing I also tend to overcomplicate things and go down endless rabbit holes of derivations. But most often brevity trumps endless elaborations, if you want to get a point across in scientific matters. As suggested earlier, in the future, you could restrict your posts to the key messages and put your intermediate reasonings into a text file attachment. This allows forum members to follow your arguments in-depth, if they wish.
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Introduction, Forum Rules and Admins Messages / Re: Admin Corner
« Last post by demografx on February 25, 2025, 12:19:35 AM »

EVERYONE: for good
 \ forum etiquette /
recognized worldwide…


Why Lengthy Posts Are Discouraged
   1.   Attention Span: Most users have limited time and attention. Long posts can be overwhelming and may deter readers from engaging with your content.
   2.   Clarity: Concise messages are often clearer. Lengthy posts can dilute your main points, making it harder for readers to grasp your arguments or questions.
   3.   Engagement: Shorter posts tend to invite more responses. Users are more likely to reply to a post that is easy to read and understand.
   4.   Scrolling Fatigue: In forums, excessive scrolling can lead to fatigue. Users may skip over long posts altogether, missing valuable insights.

By keeping your posts concise and engaging, you contribute positively to the forum environment, making it enjoyable for everyone involved.

Why Technical Jargon is Discouraged
Also, Internet forum etiquette discourages the use of technical jargon, especially in forums with a non-technical member base.

This is because technical jargon can alienate readers who are not familiar with specialized terms, making it difficult for them to understand and engage with the content. To maintain a welcoming environment, it’s advisable to use plain language alternatives and explain technical terms when necessary. This approach ensures that discussions remain accessible and inclusive for all participants, regardless of their technical background.


Remember, the POISCenter goal is
effective communication that
fosters discussion and community!
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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by Progecitor on February 24, 2025, 10:34:38 PM »
As I stated yesterday:
technical jargon can alienate readers

Alright! I won’t post about scientific matters in the future! It took away much of my time and I have more important things to do anyway. Hopefully our researchers are going to fully figure out POIS soon!
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POIS Research / Re: poisdata.org - New POIS Research Platform Launch
« Last post by demografx on February 24, 2025, 06:27:53 PM »

Amazing. I'm still a little worried about AI but for us it's a fantastic tool. Have fun typing your name and you will see that he knows you better than you know yourself!  ;D
I did what you suggested. Amazing, b_jim! :)
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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by demografx on February 24, 2025, 12:47:52 PM »
Latest post from Progec is ok, it is connected to a mater and wery
well summarized.
Enyone who want to understand what he is wroted, can easly learn
on google, yust can ask what it is.

• mater?

• wroted?

• wery?

• enyone?

• easly?

• yust?

THAT’s good forum communication? ;D ;D ;D


Poor spelling and grammar is poor forum etiquette for several reasons:
   1.   Clarity: Proper spelling and grammar help ensure that your message is clear and easy to understand. When posts are filled with errors, it can be difficult for others to grasp your intended meaning.
   2.   Professionalism: Using proper language can convey respect for the community and the topic being discussed. It shows that you are taking the time to communicate effectively.
   3.   Engagement: Well-written posts are more likely to engage readers and encourage meaningful responses. Poorly written posts might deter others from participating in the conversation.
   4.   Respect for Readers: Taking the time to proofread your posts demonstrates respect for the people who will be reading them. It shows that you value their time and are willing to make an effort to communicate clearly.

If you’re concerned about your spelling and grammar, using tools like spell checkers or grammar checkers can be helpful. Additionally, taking a moment to review your post before submitting it can make a big difference.


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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by Hopeoneday on February 24, 2025, 12:29:16 PM »
Latest post from Progec is ok, it is connected to a mater and wery
well summarized.
Enyone who want to understand what he is wroted, can easly learn
on google, yust can ask what it is.
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What is POIS / Re: Is POIS a version of CFS?
« Last post by demografx on February 24, 2025, 10:10:57 AM »

• PINK1

• HIF-1alpha factors

• ME/CFS

• mitophagy

• mitochondria

• glycolytic metabolism

• hypoxia

• oxidative stress

• PEM induction



PROGECITOR:


• These are not terms understood by the majority of our non-technical POISCenter forum members

• This is not good forum communication

• This is poor forum etiquette

• Please *E D I T*  & speak “English”!


As I stated yesterday:
technical jargon can alienate readers
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