Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (P.O.I.S.)

General Category => General POIS Discussions => Topic started by: Journey on November 23, 2020, 09:40:01 AM

Title: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on November 23, 2020, 09:40:01 AM
Has anyone else their whole life had a tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique and body mass? I was almost always the thinnest out of all of my peers and friends and people in the general although never sickly either nor have had any negative symptoms due to that I'm 63kg and 190cm tall and my weight is the same since 16 and I'm 19 now even if I eat more than usual I don't see weight gain and in general, my appetite gets satiated quickly before I even eat more than the calculated caloric expenditure of mine is like the hunger signal disappears fast and my stomach feels as it gets full and eating more doesn't feel that comfortable I have been this way appetite-wise always I simply felt as my taste buds got oversaturated and more food just didn't feel as satisfying as initially like I feel sort of nauseous and it doesn't taste as pleasurable after this and my possible Aspergers might make me more sensitive to tastes and sensory stimulus in the general which would explain why tastes always feel so strong and some foods are just hard for me to eat and perhaps my stomach isn't that huge either idk.

How do you think are you on thinner side too and have POIS?

In the general are most POISers skinnier?

Were you this way before POIS too?
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: takedrugstoletgo on November 25, 2020, 12:55:19 PM
Yep. It gets even worse the more often i have sex. I?m 5?9/5?10 or so (female) and weigh 120-125 pounds, no appetite most of the time and food doesn?t really taste that good anymore unfortunately. Even stuff i really used to enjoy i can?t eat anymore.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Ricardo Brasil on November 29, 2020, 12:03:55 AM
I'm 24 years old, I'm 1.88 cm tall and currently weigh 67 kg.
The maximum I reached in weight was 72 kg when I was 19 years old. currently i started to get very weak after a short period without eating, so and by POIS, for about 4 months now i'm following a gluten and lactose free diet, and also focused on gaining muscle mass, in my life i had never eaten as much and as well as in the last 4 months, however, unfortunately I have had NO change in my weight. I am sad about it. I think I will go to the doctor to see if something is wrong with me.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on November 29, 2020, 05:30:39 AM
I'm 24 years old, I'm 1.88 cm tall and currently weigh 67 kg.
The maximum I reached in weight was 72 kg when I was 19 years old. currently i started to get very weak after a short period without eating, so and by POIS, for about 4 months now i'm following a gluten and lactose free diet, and also focused on gaining muscle mass, in my life i had never eaten as much and as well as in the last 4 months, however, unfortunately I have had NO change in my weight. I am sad about it. I think I will go to the doctor to see if something is wrong with me.
Same even eating more lately hasn't given any weight increase yet it's as if my body for some reason doesn't acquire extra mass and stays at this weight and doesn't go beyond this weight threshold even if I eat alot and sit home all the day I literally don't gain any fat or anything.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: mike_sweden on November 29, 2020, 05:25:42 PM
i have slim body figure

pois disables nutrition uptake and hence gives slim figure and low muscle mass as result
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on November 30, 2020, 04:17:29 AM
i have slim body figure

pois disables nutrition uptake and hence gives slim figure and low muscle mass as result
You sure that POIS disables nutrition uptake have you noticed mass gain when abstinent or this happen even when symptoms aren't trigerred like a background longterm body change?
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: mike_sweden on December 01, 2020, 04:09:54 AM
i sometimes have nocturnal emissions and this seems to reset all long term muscle mass gain

abstaining from orgasm gives me a better weight, but not completely as it should be

this i think is due to stress that elevates cortisol that kills testosterone and prevents muscle building
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on December 01, 2020, 07:56:33 AM
i sometimes have nocturnal emissions and this seems to reset all long term muscle mass gain

abstaining from orgasm gives me a better weight, but not completely as it should be

this i think is due to stress that elevates cortisol that kills testosterone and prevents muscle building
I too think that POIS lowers muscle gains despite working out all the time and eating.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: takedrugstoletgo on December 01, 2020, 03:29:17 PM
+1 here for the low muscle mass despite working out a lot. Never been able to build much if any muscle, just skin and bones mainly.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: IronFeather on December 02, 2020, 08:48:41 AM
I'm exactly the same. I'm a 25-year-old woman, 172 cm tall, and weigh 53 kg (117 lbs). I'm always hungry, according to everyone I know I eat enough to feed two large men, and I can't gain weight at all. Recently I've developed exercise intolerance as a result of exposure to bleach (it's a mystery), but when I went to martial arts classes and trained calisthenics, I barely gained any muscle mass even when I improved in strength, and POIS symptoms always seemed to set me back and make me lose at least 20% of the strength I had when the episode started. I feel like POIS makes us unable to use the nutrients in food properly for some reason.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on December 02, 2020, 05:29:54 PM
I'm also tall and skinny and find it hard to put on weight I haven't seen another man with wrists as skinny as mine
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on December 02, 2020, 06:11:03 PM
I'm also tall and skinny and find it hard to put on weight I haven't seen another man with wrists as skinny as mine
My wrists are thin too have always been this way they maybe got slightly larger as I grew up and my mother too has that skinny type of physique.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Muon on December 11, 2020, 10:57:10 AM
Typical POIS physique in the Spanish dude from the video: Orgasm: The Trouble with Sex (POIS part) - ABC Documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_kqIpGUYpI)

It's nice to see Waldinger in the video.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: demografx on December 11, 2020, 06:21:28 PM
Typical POIS physique in the Spanish dude from the video: Orgasm: The Trouble with Sex (POIS part) - ABC Documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_kqIpGUYpI)

It's nice to see Waldinger in the video.

“The Spanish dude” is Observer, our Moderator at POISCenter
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Muon on December 22, 2020, 07:51:12 PM
"Changes in body fat/mass index are accompanied by changes in leptin secretion. Leptin has not panned out as a weight-loss medication, since downstream tolerance develops to its continued administration. Leptin increases melanocortins and decreases agouti-related peptide (AgRP)."
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Muon on March 24, 2021, 10:25:47 AM
Low BMI, Body Weight Loss, Low Muscle Mass, Low Appetite and Gut Microbiota:

Targeting the Gut Microbiota to Treat Cachexia (https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcimb.2019.00305/full)
Title: Not that much fat and muscle covering and an overall skinnier boneish physique?
Post by: Journey on April 15, 2021, 11:41:28 AM
I kind of have low fat and muscle covering at least compared to many other people and even when I try to eat more it is like my body does not really respond to it and it has been this way my whole life

Also for some reason in POIS I get a lot more disrupted sleep so I am always less energetic the next day and therefore it is harder to work out without feeling like I am going to fall asleep soon

In the past while abstaining nocturnal emissions would disrupt my sleep resulting in underenergization so less energy for working out and also I would notice a loss of muscle mass gained previously whenever I had nocturnal emissions
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: jon1_reclaim on April 19, 2021, 09:07:13 AM
Colostrum powder/liquid has helped me gain muscle in the past, and generally feel good when on it .. I would say it is worth a try if any wants to try too ...
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on April 19, 2021, 01:35:27 PM
High Histamine levels and High Serotonin levels both can cause lower appetite as well, I wonder if any POISers have noticed appetite decrease even further after supplementing 5-HTP and/or L-Histidine? If that happens it could signalize excess Histamine/Serotonin being the cause behind lower appetite and the underweightedness
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Hadouken on April 27, 2021, 11:09:08 AM
As soon as I get a POIS episode my stomach becomes upset. Food stop tasting good and feels heavy in the stomach. Stomach starts making weird noises which was never there before. I start getting gassy and stool smell bad. Insomnia follows as well as central sleep apnea, joint pains and random pains everywhere, also suicidal depression.
It seems like food absorption is atrocious for 10 days following an O, also no matter how much food I consume I  drop weight.
Recently I learned to cope with this Issue is to consume something similar to ?ensure? nutritional shake but without the lactose  and sugar. My current expensive  concoction is 2 scoops vega all in one shake, followed by soy milk (use any milk you can tolerate), 3 table spoons of walnut oil.
This will give you about 900 calories per drink. Drink one at 8 am and one later around 7, and in the time between id try to eat as high calorie as i can... surprisingly, popeye classic chicken sandwiches at 600 calories a piece is working so far. I know it?s not healthy but it?s working for me.
I aim for 3000 calories a day.

This strategy starts adding weight after 10 days following an O. During the 10 days I?d have to muscle through the weight loss and try and consume high amount of protein shake.

Recently I had dropped to 137 pounds as a 5,10 ft tall guy because of IBS induced by O. I have noticed when my weight was low that my symptoms were DIRE, my heart felt absent as if there was a void there. It also beated in a very uncomfortable manner. My muscles and joints were hurting, they felt like they were being dismantaled or tearing.
After muscling through the POIS shit storm  using a lot of protein shakes. My digestion slowly became a little bit better. So I introduced Popeyes chicken sandwiches (surprisingly the gluten didn?t kill me). And then I was able to rack on weight.
I was able to get to 147 pounds 10+ pounds gained in about 2 weeks or less .
Once I was 147 pounds with perfect digestion  and sleep and basically symptom free, I decided to be cocky and indulge in a few O.

That messed me up real quick. My digestion went from 100 to a 0 real quick and I lost about 3 pounds, even when I consumed 3000+ calories a day! :(
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Hadouken on April 27, 2021, 11:10:47 AM
Oh I also forgot to add. After my weight increased to 147 my POIS symptoms reduced. But not to an impressive level.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Clues on April 27, 2021, 02:01:13 PM
Somewhat skinny POIS'er here. Male, 187 cm, 70 kg.

Before I started paying attention to my diet, I would always look/feel slightly chubby, even while exercising 4 times per week. I dropped gluten about 10 years ago, after which my face looked much less puffy, and it was easier to maintain a healthy weight. Then at some point 6-12 months ago I switched to an MCAS-friendly diet and my weight dropped super quickly from 80 kg to 70 kg. I was a bit worried at first, but my gut feels a lot better, and I look and feel healthy, so I don't worry about it anymore.

EDIT: To anyone experimenting with diets: Please do the research, talk to a professional if you can, and make sure you get all the nutrition you need!  :)
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Muon on June 27, 2021, 09:25:03 AM
 Targeting melanocortin receptors: an approach to treat weight disorders and sexual dysfunction (https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd2331)
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: VSmasher on August 01, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
Not me. I'm a thick boy. I'm 39yo, 5'8", 175 pounds. I have a muscular build with a big head.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on August 03, 2021, 02:28:54 AM
Oh I also forgot to add. After my weight increased to 147 my POIS symptoms reduced. But not to an impressive level.
Same once I gained 10 kilogram and got to 160lbs a slight reduction perhaps in the length and intensity of some symptoms but nothing strong
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Bob Morane on August 04, 2021, 12:44:11 PM
As soon as I get a POIS episode my stomach becomes upset. Food stop tasting good and feels heavy in the stomach.

It seems like food absorption is atrocious for 10 days following an O]

Same here - food just sits in my stomach forever. The whole digestive process slows down a lot. I believe this causes most of my main symptoms. If I could figure out what makes this happen - I should be able to find some way to correct it or manage it better. I suspect at this point that it is due to a faulty hormonal response following O.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: IronFeather on August 07, 2021, 08:45:24 AM
Oh I also forgot to add. After my weight increased to 147 my POIS symptoms reduced. But not to an impressive level.
Same once I gained 10 kilogram and got to 160lbs a slight reduction perhaps in the length and intensity of some symptoms but nothing strong

If POIS is caused by a radiculopathy (a pinched nerve root in the spine, probably the vagus nerve) like Dr. Komisaruk suggested, could putting on weight reduce the pressure on the nerve root somehow? Just a theory. Personally my experience is the same, in fact, now that I think of it, sudden weight loss and the subsequent quick weight gain afterwards happened when my first POIS symptoms appeared. Maybe those sudden changes in my weight trapped a nerve somehow. A

And back when I didn't have exercise intolerance yet, and had put on weight and quite a bit of muscle, I felt much better and my symptoms weren't too severe, just a fever.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: IronFeather on August 07, 2021, 09:10:20 AM
As soon as I get a POIS episode my stomach becomes upset. Food stop tasting good and feels heavy in the stomach.

It seems like food absorption is atrocious for 10 days following an O]

Same here - food just sits in my stomach forever. The whole digestive process slows down a lot. I believe this causes most of my main symptoms. If I could figure out what makes this happen - I should be able to find some way to correct it or manage it better. I suspect at this point that it is due to a faulty hormonal response following O.

This happens to me too, but in a less severe way. During POIS, my appetite is reduced, and my digestive system works differently, sometimes I tend towards diarrhea and sometimes towards constipation. I believe it's due to a problem in the vagus nerve, that controls digestion. If it's underactive, it could very well cause constipation and slow down digestion.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: takedrugstoletgo on August 14, 2021, 09:35:21 AM
Since i started having POIS symptoms, i became severely underweight. Was always skinny but never just skin and bones until i got sick.
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Journey on August 15, 2021, 02:20:06 PM
Raw milk helped me get from 63kg to 74kg (160 lbs) at 188cm height
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Muon on September 08, 2021, 05:19:36 AM
"5-HT2C agonism has been demonstrated to induce anorexia via enhancement of serotonergic neurotransmission via activation of 5-HT2C receptors"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aripiprazole#Pharmacodynamics
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: VSmasher on September 10, 2021, 03:31:49 PM
I'm POISer and I have always been a thick boy
Title: Re: POIS and tendency towards lean/thin/skinny/underweight physique?
Post by: Cluudee Disappear on September 11, 2021, 08:50:38 AM
I'm POISer and I have always been a thick boy

Same