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Title: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on April 08, 2019, 04:22:13 AM
Having had some success with paleo, I know move on to FODMAP.
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Since what you eat can have a major effect on your body, digestive issues are incredibly common.

FODMAPs are types of carbohydrates found in certain foods, including wheat and beans.

Studies have shown strong links between FODMAPs and digestive symptoms like gas, bloating, stomach pain, diarrhea and constipation.

Low-FODMAP diets can provide remarkable benefits for many people with common digestive disorders.

I will post here with updates

there is an initial 5-6 week intro/strict phase

please share your thoughts
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: joelawerence on April 08, 2019, 11:15:20 AM
Looking forward to your updates. There are some diet changes which can make you feel better for a month or so and then they wean off, so atleast 2 months is what you should ideally aim for :)
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: demografx on April 08, 2019, 11:44:32 AM

Thanks, joelawerence

Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on July 22, 2019, 12:16:21 PM
FODMAP is working out good, takes some time but its an overall daily improvement

this has given me a better digestion and stomach.

this does work way better than paleo
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Gino on July 27, 2019, 08:16:24 AM
I adopted a low-Fodmap diet in 2014 and found it to greatly reduce bloating and related digestive symptoms. I also have less puffiness in the face/eyes in the mornings. It's hard to follow so I don't adhere strictly on weekends.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on July 30, 2019, 07:27:08 AM
I adopted a low-Fodmap diet in 2014 and found it to greatly reduce bloating and related digestive symptoms. I also have less puffiness in the face/eyes in the mornings. It's hard to follow so I don't adhere strictly on weekends.

it is really a strict diet, you have to check absolutely every label and never miss anything, which of course is almost impossible, but i am trying.

almost everything today contains lactos, gluten or union/garlic
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Gino on August 01, 2019, 12:57:44 AM
Usually the outcome is more important for me on weekdays for work, so I keep my diet very standard on Sunday dinner to Friday lunch. E.g. BYO lunch or eat out at same place that I know works for me (gluten free and low fructose).

Going for a 10 minute+ walk after eating helps too.

From Friday dinner to Sunday lunch I'm usually with friends/family so the strict diet is harder to follow. But still just avoid the highest fructose foods/drinks like onions and soda drinks (but need to adhere to gluten free as a minimum).

Luckily there are many new products in the supermarkets that claim to be low-FODMAP, or "FODMAP friendly". This can make it easier for a quick breakfast or snack.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on October 18, 2019, 01:32:06 PM
fodmap is working out good, highly recommended
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: certainlypois2 on October 18, 2019, 05:07:19 PM
fodmap is working out good, highly recommended

thanks for the update
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on January 04, 2020, 01:42:29 PM
fodmap is very good for me but needs to be combined with probiotics

there is for sure something wrong with my gut, i understand that now

i have started probiotics supplement from 23rd of dec

seems to work very well indeed, highly recommended

https://www.lactiplus.se/produkter/lactiplus-ibs
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Clues on January 06, 2020, 02:08:20 PM
I have POIS and am intolerant to FODMAPs. Laying off them has helped my digestion a lot. Also, gluten was causing some POIS-like symptoms for me: Mood changes, "brain fog" etc.

One thing I'd suggest to people wanting to eliminate FODMAPs is to make sure whatever you add to your diet in place of FODMAP foods is healthy. Might sound obvious, but if you look at for example a lot of gluten free bread substitutes, they often have a lot of unhelpful ingredients such as rice flour. Personally I find breakfast and lunch are harder than dinners. A big help for me was to find a naturally gluten-free and low-FODMAP bun recipe that's become a staple for breakfast and lunch. It's based on oats, cottage cheese and eggs. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll post the recipe.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: an-y-more on March 06, 2020, 08:15:03 PM
I'm on FODMAP for a three weeks now and even now results are noticeable! My brain fog has gone. I have more energy than ever in the last five years. My headaches now occur not as much as they were. And I'm no longer feel squashed (both mentally and physically) even in my worst pois moments- I can and have energy to keep thinking clearly.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on October 21, 2020, 08:07:00 AM
a great tip to everyone, try out FODMAP, its great

orgasmed yesterday, no symptoms, i keep orgasms to about 2-3 per month now and i am hardly seeing any symptoms, a little lung/chest problem but i always have that.

i eat lots of vitamins and take vit D and Zink

and also eat lots of chocolate for good mood
and carrots for anticonstipation
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Journey on October 21, 2020, 08:13:33 AM
If it helps many question is what causes POIS-what happens during O that it's negative effect is lowered by this diet?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Muon on October 21, 2020, 08:34:38 AM
Bonebroth's SIBO test could be a potential part of the puzzle. He is a methane breather when ingesting lactulose (don't confuse it with lactose). https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg35348#msg35348
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Journey on October 21, 2020, 09:45:26 AM
Bonebroth's SIBO test could be a potential part of the puzzle. He is a methane breather when ingesting lactulose (don't confuse it with lactose). https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg35348#msg35348
SIBO directly causes it or it is 1 or it's result of root cause or 1 of causes?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Muon on October 23, 2020, 07:00:27 AM
Bonebroth's SIBO test could be a potential part of the puzzle. He is a methane breather when ingesting lactulose (don't confuse it with lactose). https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg35348#msg35348
SIBO directly causes it or it is 1 or it's result of root cause or 1 of causes?

That needs to be researched. Conditions that alter GI motility could lead to SIBO. Testing is simple, non-invasive and relatively cheap. SIBO poll: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3385.0
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on November 12, 2020, 08:54:14 AM
Orgasmed at 10 o clock, now 5 h later, no symptoms, some mild bloating but compensated with some bubble water

Its clear that my stomach goes bananas just after orgasm, creating a massive amount of gases, very strange

I have been eating extra amount of vit D, Zink and Niacin, multivitamin
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: berlin1984 on December 31, 2020, 02:15:30 AM
mike_sweden, any news from you?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on January 01, 2021, 05:38:29 AM
fodmap is working out very good but there is still something wrong with the gut

fodmap is not enough

clearly i am lactose intolerant

eating at restaurant with family and friends is not easy

it seems one has to do a complete reset of the intestines, i am for the moment trying out probiotics called probimage (Swedish brand)

i am significantly less gassy on fodmap and i have sound regular bowel movements, i sometimes suffer from constipation, never diarrhea

things i prefer to eat is fish, chicken, meat and special salad, those things work ok

i have a constant lung problem, clogged nose and heart issues (think its gases), also tired and depressed, insomnia strikes sometimes
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: berlin1984 on January 01, 2021, 06:39:50 AM
eating at restaurant with family and friends is not easy

This is clearly only a Swedish problem :-) Every other European country has restaurants closed ;-)
Just kidding..

For people googling it: There is the "Low FODMAP" diet and the "FODMAP" diet, obviously we mean the "Low FODMAP" diet here...

I browsed some other threads here yesterday and now wonder if you would benefit from taking Betain HCL, Ox bile and digestive enzymes as supplement pill. (TODO: link to other threads)
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on January 25, 2021, 11:35:50 AM
continuing with fodmap, works great
i will now also try probiotics

fodmap is a must for everyone with pois
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Journey on January 25, 2021, 11:40:47 AM
What symptoms and by how much have decreased?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: berlin1984 on January 25, 2021, 03:29:11 PM
continuing with fodmap, works great
i will now also try probiotics

fodmap is a must for everyone with pois

I'd say be cautious with probiotics, some of them might increase histamine production. (https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=1148.msg38762#msg38762)

Regarding low FODMAP diet: I think it makes sense as piece of the puzzle. My theory about it was:
If there is Norepinephrine depletion immediately after orgasm (https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2937.msg27785) (e.g. it is circulation around in the body like crazy?)
and
Norepinephrine increases bacteria replication and decreases immune system (source0 (https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1164/rccm.201604-0862CP),source1 (https://bmcmicrobiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2180-14-180), source2 (https://www.jwatch.org/na46468/2018/04/30/norepinephrine-enhances-bacterial-replication-and))
...

And by going lower FODMAP, you potentially decrease bacteria in your system, maybe especially in an area they don't belong to (SIBO?!) which leads to less bacteria or bacteria byproducts leaking into your whole body.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on January 26, 2021, 07:24:53 AM
I will give low fodmap a shot, my diet is already quite similar, all I need to drop is onions, garlic, apples and be more stricter with cheat meals. Before I assumed fodmap was probably just an ineffective diet that conventional drs advise.

I think going completely organic could also helps things a lot. All the pesticides and chemicals in non organic are not good for your body.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on January 26, 2021, 10:00:09 AM
fodmap is not about dieting, its mostly about reducing stomach issues
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: berlin1984 on January 26, 2021, 11:02:13 AM
fodmap is not about dieting, its mostly about reducing stomach issues

diet in English in this sense is is "näring" in Swedish ("Ernährung" in German), not diet :-)
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on January 26, 2021, 11:04:24 AM
fodmap is not about dieting, its mostly about reducing stomach issues

Yeah never said it was but it is still a diet
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on January 26, 2021, 02:36:41 PM
Do you have any recommendations on what to use for chicken seasoning/sauces on low fodmap? I used paprika,cumin, coriander just now but that will get boring fast.
I guess this diet will be harder for me as I'm already low histamine, low GI carbs and I can't eat a lot of the low fodmap foods like gluten free oats
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on January 27, 2021, 03:24:49 AM
i use this one

https://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/low-fodmap-recipe-book-9781912023035?gclid=CjwKCAiAu8SABhAxEiwAsodSZCORwxs2Z3xY_Ab3NKCvSYug2PzEOzGmWV_61AQIYmvpvNOGEbf6hhoC-Z4QAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on January 27, 2021, 09:21:30 AM
i use this one

https://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/low-fodmap-recipe-book-9781912023035?gclid=CjwKCAiAu8SABhAxEiwAsodSZCORwxs2Z3xY_Ab3NKCvSYug2PzEOzGmWV_61AQIYmvpvNOGEbf6hhoC-Z4QAvD_BwE

Ok thanks I bought it this morning, the low fodmap portions sizes are very small for me, is there anything specific I can eat where I can eat bigger portions
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on January 28, 2021, 12:25:00 PM
After one day of dropping onions and garlic and only eating low fodmap amounts of certain foods I see a massive reduction in brain fog, social anxiety and autistic symptoms, its like it sorted out a neurotransmitter imbalance and now music is much more enjoyable for me also. I was eating a whole cooked onion with every meal before this diet.

There are some problems though my gut can't tolerate brown rice on its own I guess to do with the texture/fibre/starch but before I ate brown rice with cooked onions with no problems most of the time. I tried brown rice on its own yesterday and I had a really bad stomach cramps.

Tried white rice  today and it does give me brain fog so it better for me to avoid it as its not good for autonomic dysfunction, I think because the blood sugar spike spikes neurotransmitter levels.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on February 10, 2021, 09:07:30 AM
I ate organic white potatoes homemade chips which are supposed to be low fodmap for a few days and I felt awful for a week.

In my Organic acid test I did a year ago my arabinose levels were over double the highest range value which indicates candida overgrowth, autistic boys also have much higher arabinose levels than non autistic boys.

So I believe pathogenic candida overgrowth caused gut dysbiosis in me, and mast cell issues also. For years I told drs to check for systemic fungal infections but its not something conventional drs really acknowledge as a problem. I felt infected but the symptoms didn't feel like or resembled a bacterial or viral infection.

I've started Custom Probiotics CP1 L. Acidophilus, L.Rhamnosus,L. Plantarum, B. Longum and B. Bifidum and its the first probiotic where I've seen major improvements from especially in autistic symptoms, usually I feel nothing from probioitcs. This was the most popular supplement on a website that sells supplements for autism.
Also using brain gain and cystoprotek atm.

I plan to add a spore biotic as well which are apparently as good as antibiotics and they're really strong.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on February 23, 2021, 11:00:11 AM
Not sure what happened but my POIS has been worse the last two times since starting lowing fodmap, I realised using spices like paprika on chicken I wasn't feeling good when regularly eating. Maybe because of phenols, I can't use lemon juice for flavour because of histamine, with extra virgin olive oil I also react badly to it, must be because of phenols. Doing low histamine plus this diet is pretty hard so I think I'm gonna quit this diet as it sucks.

There also could be some other factors at play : I added in some special probiotics, stopped taking the luteolin/folinic acid brain gain supplement, started using cystoprotek(quercitin rutin), started using methyl folate, b2, hydrox b12, oregano oil, sulforaphane.

Tried an O yesterday without porn and had to use coconut massage oil to get hard maybe using this lubricant made the O mechanism worse, which caused stronger POIS.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on February 23, 2021, 12:21:16 PM
FODMAP-lists are tricky and can be contradictive. Some say you can eat bananas some say not. Aubergine is approved but for me it was a gas bomb. Even if somethings on the fodmap list it could ruin your gut if you eat just a little to much of it! The only way is to try each of the fodmaps seperatly to see if it works - elimination diet. The problem is that it might take 24 hours before you notice if it worked, and by that time you have already get tired of etaing one thing and tryed another thing.  I think you should stay away from all fruits except from small berries. Carnivore diet feels safer, you can try protein powder as well when you are desperate. I eat UltraInflam by Metagenics and mix it with water only. Bone broth has never failed me, or steemed codfish. Egg is tricky.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on February 23, 2021, 01:14:52 PM
FODMAP-lists are tricky and can be contradictive. Some say you can eat bananas some say not. Aubergine is approved but for me it was a gas bomb. Even if somethings on the fodmap list it could ruin your gut if you eat just a little to much of it! The only way is to try each of the fodmaps seperatly to see if it works - elimination diet. The problem is that it might take 24 hours before you notice if it worked, and by that time you have already get tired of etaing one thing and tryed another thing.  I think you should stay away from all fruits except from small berries. Carnivore diet feels safer, you can try protein powder as well when you are desperate. I eat UltraInflam by Metagenics and mix it with water only. Bone broth has never failed me, or steemed codfish. Egg is tricky.

Yeah the only fruits I've been eating are oranges+satsumas which both have 0 fodmaps and then also passionfruit. I've mainly been eating brown rice which has zero fodmaps, with either wild salmon, chicken or grass fed beef. Due to the limited low fodmap snack options it's made me eat less than normal. So I've been craving sugar more than usual and have been eating gluten free cookies which I doubt are doing me good, paprika/cinnamon as seasoning for chicken probably is also creating problems not sure what else I can use which I'll tolerate. I eat scrambled eggs with gluten free toast and bacon from time to time which seems fine.

My stools look normal now after this diet and the expensive probiotics + sporebiotics but I still had bad POIS the last two times(much worse than normal)

The MONASH fodmap app is slightly helpful as it tells you the foods which contain zero foodmaps at all but I still don't think it was worth the money it costs.

I tried grass fed bone broth before and didn't feel good on it, I had rashes on joints as well, I guess because of the histamine or possibly because of the heavy metal content(has high lead.)

I'm buying a carbon steel pan as normal non stick pans leak lots of chemicals into your food, the fumes from non stick pans are strong enough to kill birds thats how toxic they are. For cast iron/carbon steel pans you need to season them with fat or oil in the oven but I want to use a healthy fat that has a high heating point. Do you know any good ones I can use? I was thinking maybe avocado oil but all the seasoning guides are using canola/grapeseed oil which are unhealthy.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on February 23, 2021, 04:35:20 PM
I only use butter or coconut oil (or mix them 50/50). Coconut oil is the best oil to use and the only one you should heat. It stands hight tempertaure and has antiinflammatory properties. It's good for the brain. Coconut oil olso contains MCT-oil, which is extremely good for the brain. There are books about it (https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Alzheimers-Second-Bruce-Fife/dp/1936709120/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=bruce+fife&qid=1614116171&sr=8-3). I take a Omega 3 supplement with MCT oil as well to protect my brain from damages from the POIS-inflammation. I also have suger cravings because I tend to eat less on the fodamap protocol. I have lost about 10 kilo during last 3-4 months and my body fat has dropped to the lowest end of the normal range.  I also stilled my hunger with gluten free coockies and bread. But after eating two portions of glutenfree waffles with jam and cream last week I had a huge setback with super bad sewer smelling gas and heavy headache that still has not gone away. That made me rethink about the gluten free snacks/bread. Its the starch in the bread that feeds the bad bacteria, It doesnt matter it its gluten free! I have to cut this out completely and starve those suckers to death once and for all! I have to take something that aids this process too, something like garlic capsules (not the raw garlic), oregano oil, colloidal silver, maybe colostrum.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on February 23, 2021, 06:08:02 PM
Yeah I like MCT oil but when I have tried a bulletproof coffee but even with 1/3 of the recommended amount of fat, it ends up being too much fat for me and I get chest pain and issues with my heart. Maybe it's because I wasn't in ketosis but the coffee is supposed to put you into a near ketosis state. Coconut oils heating point isn't high enough to season the carbon steel pan with in the oven or frying steaks at full heat but it is still a good oil to use for moderate cooking none the less.

The gluten free cookies don't seem to have any negative effect on me that I've noticed and I saw people on the fodmap reddit eating the same ones. Oregano oil is a life saver for when I feel infection like symptoms coming on in my gut and brain. I agree gluten free bread isn't great.

I did start this speical probiotic https://www.mandimart.co.uk/collections/best-sellers/products/custom-probiotics-cp1-90-caps I felt so much better the first few days like my head instantly became clear and autistic symptoms went but then I stopped feeling any effects for the last few weeks. Now I think its because there was nothing left in my gut to feed them, I finally broke the low fodmap diet this evening and had a takeway burger with chips and I took that probiotic and I suddenly feel it working again. They are the best selling supplement on a popular website for autism supplements, they're not like cheap probiotics which I found to do nothing.

Do you know if your supposed to use things like inulin when you start introducing probiotics on low fodmap? Now I feel like I may have wasted the other probiotics I was also taking like the l reuteri and the spore biotics.

Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on February 24, 2021, 04:11:57 AM
Dont know about the inulin. I was given Dr Mercolas Complete Bio and Complete Spore restore but I didnt experienced much improvement when taking them. Souns strrange if your body could go into ketosis just by drinking Bulletproof coffe. Ketoses assumes almost zero carbohydrate intake.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on February 25, 2021, 01:59:43 PM
Last night I tried a smoothie that I used to drink all the time before the low fodmap diet and I felt bad from it. So Fructose or Sorbitol are definitely culprits for me, it feels like they are feeding some infection in my body and I really felt bad since I had the smoothie last night. I do recommend going on the low fodmap diet as I didn't realise certain things were doing me harm before starting the diet.

A normal burger bun didn't seem to do anything bad to me so maybe I can tolerate fructans better than fructose, and the same when I tried harrisa sauce that contained garlic. I did feel a lot better when cutting out garlic and onions (both fructans) just maybe I was eating too much of them.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on March 03, 2021, 04:37:01 PM
Yes, the amount of any food seems to be crucial. There is rice syrup in the ultrainflamx meal replacement and rice suryp is not fodmap. But it taste so sweet (40g sugar per 100 gram) and i dont think that is good for the liver. Fructose is the worst thing you can eat if yout liver is down. I feel hungry all day no matter how much i seemed to eat. Maybe the body has some catch up to do. I think its important not to eat anything between 6pm and 9am, and thus you have to maximize calory intake during the day. My urine pH is too acid when i eat much meat and fish so I've started taking calcium supplements to those meals and that gives result on the Ph sticks!
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Muon on March 03, 2021, 05:07:02 PM
Something at the internal body-environmental interface is responding to food. Probably a similar mechanism as the semen traveling through the male genital tract.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on March 03, 2021, 06:25:58 PM
I did some more testing with fructans (onion and garlic) and they are just as bad as fructose, I tried eating more than ten almonds (oligos) and they are just as bad also I don't see how I'm gonna fix this issue without the use of antibiotics, it's just annoying because the gastrentolgist I saw at the start of october is not doing anything about arranging a follow up even though I've emailed him and did his small intestine permeability test ages ago. I think it's because he's unwilling to prescribe antibiotics without evidence. I called him and he said his receptionist would contact me for a follow up but I never heard anything... He also just ignored my emails, all these specialists have massive egos and it's a serious problem especially the ones in the NHS....
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Muon on March 03, 2021, 06:38:32 PM
The IBS seen in POISers might be mucosal adaptive immune responses, like Th1 mediated, leading to increased epithelial permeability and leakage of antigens. Blood work may be clean but local measurements at the mucosal barrier could tell a different story. 
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on March 04, 2021, 05:29:58 AM
Stress and POIS inflammation is litterally eating up the collagen in the lining in your gut (and everywhare in the body) and allow undigested food, fungus and bacteria to pass through. The best dietary measure is to let the intestines (and liver) rest from food during long times (between 6pm and 10am) and at the rest of the time only eat one food at a time to try if it works: fish, meat, egg, leafy vegetables, brown rice, bacon, protein powder. Take digestive enzymes, apple cider vinaeger and HCL-tablets to every meal and stay away from fodmaps, gas producing foods and sugars/starch. The first two days after POIS its probably best to drink smoothies or even better only water fast, with some addition of anti inflammatory supplements.

Take collagen, glutamin, aloe vera, bonebroth and protein whey powder (amino acids) to heal the gut and eat garlic capsules (not the fresh) and oregano oil to kill bacteria. If your gut is sick you have to treat it like a patient. Take calcium supplements if you end up with a hight meat-diet.

We POISers tend to spend much time in front of the screen and then we sit in a position that lowers the blood and oxygen supply to the brain (worsened by low blood pressure). Thats probably why it takes so long time for the headache to go away. The inflammatory substances stay longer time. Sit more straigt, do some yoga poses now and then, take walkes.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Journey on March 04, 2021, 10:47:06 AM
Stress and POIS inflammation is litterally eating up the collagen in the lining in your gut (and everywhare in the body) and allow undigested food, fungus and bacteria to pass through. The best dietary measure is to let the intestines (and liver) rest from food during long times (between 6pm and 10am) and at the rest of the time only eat one food at a time to try if it works: fish, meat, egg, leafy vegetables, brown rice, bacon, protein powder. Take digestive enzymes, apple cider vinaeger and HCL-tablets to every meal and stay away from fodmaps, gas producing foods and sugars/starch. The first two days after POIS its probably best to drink smoothies or even better only water fast, with some addition of anti inflammatory supplements.

Take collagen, glutamin, aloe vera, bonebroth and protein whey powder (amino acids) to heal the gut and eat garlic capsules (not the fresh) and oregano oil to kill bacteria. If your gut is sick you have to treat it like a patient. Take calcium supplements if you end up with a hight meat-diet.

We POISers tend to spend much time in front of the screen and then we sit in a position that lowers the blood and oxygen supply to the brain (worsened by low blood pressure). Thats probably why it takes so long time for the headache to go away. The inflammatory substances stay longer time. Sit more straigt, do some yoga poses now and then, take walkes.
I am already underweight and not eating enough makes me feel totally crap
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on March 10, 2021, 09:37:24 AM
fodmap is good but not enough

i will try only meat + green salad + oliveoil for 2 months
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on March 10, 2021, 10:10:11 AM
fodmap is good but not enough

i will try only meat + green salad + oliveoil for 2 months

I cut out meat and eggs for two days and all my brain fog and autistic symptoms went away. I was eating 600-660 grams of meat every day before this. Music sounded good again, motivation came back, compulsive checking of phone stopped, speech and social skills became normal, no anixety and my confidence became god like I could speak to any stranger naturally without any autism showing.

Protein is high in phenylethylamine (PEA) which is bad for catecholamines.

It's a trade off as well because my POIS became worse without any meat but I am referring to the symptoms I get outside of POIS.

I'm gonna make a post soon about why this is, I'm not suggesting anyone to go vegan but meat consumption needs to be reduced significantly for neurotransmitters to be fixed.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on March 10, 2021, 04:56:00 PM
Fodmap without meat... what is there left to eat? Fish, chicken?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on March 10, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
Yeah I had to break the low fodmap diet a bit but it was worth it, and no chicken is meat and fish is also animal protein. I ordered some vegetarian options from a food delivery service.

Personally I never thought meat was causing me any problems before this, things I've tried in the past like low carb have made me feel better. I love meat and I find vegans really annoying but I'm gonna have to reduce my meat consumption substantially.

I wasn't feeling that good on fodmap either, a lot of the low fodmap foods/spices are high in phenols or histamine and I am intolerant to both and now I've found it was the meat which was causing me the main problems on low fodmap.

Maybe if you want try cutting out meat for dinner and see the difference in how you feel the next day.

Attached bellow is what happens when meat ferments in our gut, - phenols ammonia probably being the issue.

Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on March 11, 2021, 05:52:54 AM
I did a Bicom bioresonance check yesterday and it said I should not eat pork, but beef was ok. The same Bicom treated my histamine allergy and yesterday they could not see that I didn't have a problem with histamine anymore. I've always eaten minced meat with pork untill today.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on March 11, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
I did a Bicom bioresonance check yesterday and it said I should not eat pork, but beef was ok. The same Bicom treated my histamine allergy and yesterday they could not see that I had a problem with histamine anymore. I've always eaten minced meat with pork untill today.

How did it treat it? With vibrations from the machine I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on March 11, 2021, 08:53:49 AM
Non perceptible magnetic electric inpulses I guess, your connected with metal plates. Here's a demonstration (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TpyVBPwLQ4).
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on March 13, 2021, 05:54:06 PM
meat + green salad + olive oil is working out good

i can feel less bloating and less gases

will continue and report

having carbohydrates "sugar" cravings

have to work on anxiety
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Iwillbeatthis on March 13, 2021, 06:58:07 PM
meat + green salad + olive oil is working out good

i can feel less bloating and less gases

will continue and report

having carbohydrates "sugar" cravings

have to work on anxiety

I bet it's the meat causing your anxiety but you wouldn't realise this unless you cut out meat for a day or two.

Meat and eggs are high in Phenylalanine, Tyrosine and chicken is high in serotonin/tryptophan, these all spike catecholamines which means excess neurotransmitters causing dilated pupils and anxiety.

For me chicken is the worst one to eat.

Meat and eggs have the highest sources of arachidonic acid which is also a cause of depression and anxiety.
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Going less Crazy on March 13, 2021, 07:02:35 PM
meat + green salad + olive oil is working out good

i can feel less bloating and less gases

will continue and report

having carbohydrates "sugar" cravings

have to work on anxiety

This is strange and I don't think it's FODMAP but adding cannelini beans to my diet has made my anxiety levels almost non-existent and has improved my sleep so much.

I looked this up and cannellini beans are rich natural sources of phosphatidylserine. This lowers cortisol, the stress hormone. In theory, this should raise testosterone. This might have been my problem all of these years of sleep problems... High cortisol induced by "allergenic" foods?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on May 01, 2021, 07:46:09 AM
cravings are gone and i have learnt how to eat properly and sleep well.

still i have some bloating and stomach issues

my stomach is a gigantic problem once and a while, it flares up without clear reason

right now i have tight stomach muscles, very strange
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on July 17, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
orgasm two days ago, almost no symptoms

its summer, im happy and the symptoms i got was the usual lung/digestion issues but very mild such

i am now eating only meat and salad, nothing else

i have very small symptoms during peak summer
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on July 17, 2021, 03:55:03 PM
Whats the diffrence in summer?
Better sleep (more sun = better circadan rytm)?
More excercice (swimming, walks etc)?
More social contacts?
Less stress?
More sun (vitamin D)?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: Journey on July 18, 2021, 02:45:26 PM
Whats the diffrence in summer?
Better sleep (mpre sun = better circadan rytm)?
More excercice (swimming, walks etc)?
More social contacts?
Less stress?
More sun (vitamin D)?
VitaminD and sunlight itself and warm temperatures mainly having a pro metabolical effect, VitaminD reduces mast cell activation and improves gut microbiome and is anti-inflammatory
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on July 19, 2021, 12:22:37 PM
i would say the warmer temp and open windows
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on July 19, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
If we could take that in a pill it would be great. I've taken vitamin D pill like crazy and still havn't felt near as much improvements as when I had summer holliday. Now its summer, its super hot and sun every day and and I'm out alot, but I dont have vacation so I stay where I use to stay and work every day (with the everyday stress). It must be the vacation factor too. Does anyone else feel the same? What about the open windows Mike, fresh air?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on August 23, 2021, 11:32:59 AM
i recently ate gluten and lactose on new job for a week and my immune system completely disappeared, got a severe cold flu and will be bed laying for a week or so

was a long time ago i was this sick
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: BoneBroth on August 25, 2021, 06:04:46 AM
Do you experience any increase in headache or skin redness anyware on your body at the same time?
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on August 28, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Do you experience any increase in headache or skin redness anyware on your body at the same time?

i experience loss of energy uptake, fatigue, dry skin... as consequence

not sure about headache and skin redness, will think about it
Title: Re: Starting FODMAP
Post by: mike_sweden on September 20, 2021, 09:30:17 AM
Bonebroth's SIBO test could be a potential part of the puzzle. He is a methane breather when ingesting lactulose (don't confuse it with lactose). https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2684.msg35348#msg35348
SIBO directly causes it or it is 1 or it's result of root cause or 1 of causes?

That needs to be researched. Conditions that alter GI motility could lead to SIBO. Testing is simple, non-invasive and relatively cheap. SIBO poll: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3385.0

i think i have the ibs-c version, that is very low motility and reoccurring constipation, this makes me severely tired at times when the motility drops, i get totally drained on energy, if i take something that speeds up the motility then my energy levels rise sharply