Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (P.O.I.S.)

POIS Life Style => The Down Side => Topic started by: Vandemolen on August 31, 2017, 09:58:11 PM

Title: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on August 31, 2017, 09:58:11 PM
For me chronic prostatitis is now a bigger problem for me than POIS. My POIS only latsts 1 day because of the desens I did. But chronic prostatitis is painfull for weeks. Even when I am on antibiotics, which is almost the whole year. I think my chronic prostatitis is connected to POIS. Does anyone else has chronic prostatitis? What do you do to regulate the problem?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Starsky on September 01, 2017, 03:44:28 AM
Did you experience this problem before desens?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Unvers on September 01, 2017, 03:49:35 AM
Yesterday I ate bad and was in prostatitis, probably prostatitis was also triggered by abstinence and continued sexual arousal because I have an affair with a woman in these days but I am avoiding masturbation, after orgasm prostate don't longer felt bad but now I am in POIS, I don't want to masturbate for prostatitis however, I prefer prostatitis to POIS because POIS dump me at cognitive level, prostatitis is only pain that can be calmed down.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on September 01, 2017, 06:44:08 AM
Yes I had prostatitis a few years before desens. A few years ago I had prostate problems a few weeks in a year. The last years almost the whole year. The desens could make the prostate problems worse. On the other hand I stopped desens a year ago, but my prostate problems only get bigger.

Ejuculation brings prostate problems. Abstince helps. My urolgist who never heard of POIS said that I should ejuculate often because that helps with the prostate problems, but then the POIS comes in. And also the prostate problems get worse.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on February 20, 2018, 03:29:13 PM
Went to see a new pelvic floor physiotherapist. He said that I sit to much and on the wrong way. Also I drive too much. More than 18.000 miles (30.000 km) a year. And I have a sitting job. When I masturbate I also sit more than two hours behind my computer.

I bought a pillow for my car. And I am going to ask at work if I can have a desk where you can stand.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on February 20, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
These specialists are a waste of time, money and energy for POIS patients. Not worth the effort.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on February 20, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
These specialists are a waste of time, money and energy for POIS patients. Not worth the effort.
I am not there for POIS. I want to reduce my prosititis. It sounds logic that sitting a lot is not good for the prostate. And the POIS also has a negative effect on my prostate.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: demografx on February 20, 2018, 11:27:06 PM

These specialists are a waste of time, money and energy for POIS patients. Not worth the effort.


I agree, Muon. I spent/wasted countless hours and $$$$ on specialists.

However, I did find one that worked for me: an endocrinologist

But I was just...lucky.



Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on February 24, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
The pelvic floor physiotherapist already knew POIS. He checked this forum while I was there. I am very happy that I went to see him. Because of him I know will get a standing adjustable desk at work. And I also bought one for at home. I think that will reduce my prostate pain a bit.

And again, I didn’t went to the pelvic floor physiotherapist for POIS, but for prostititis.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: fernab on April 23, 2018, 01:39:49 PM
Hi Vandemolen,

I think I also have prostatitis problem due to POIS.
And I think I began with this prostatitis after I have been riding on sled two months ago.

The result is that now I have to be very cautious before sitting. Sometimes can't sit. Because POIS symtoms arise quickly if i don't stand up. To remediate it I was taking prednisone, under the control of an internist doctor. For the moment it is relieving worst symtoms. But don't know yet if after taking it will be able to sit normally again.

I also used desketoprofen, with good results but only during a few hours. For the moment prednisone is the best solution.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on July 09, 2018, 08:11:17 PM
The pelvic floor physiotherapist already knew POIS. He checked this forum while I was there. I am very happy that I went to see him. Because of him I know will get a standing adjustable desk at work. And I also bought one for at home. I think that will reduce my prostate pain a bit.

And again, I didn’t went to the pelvic floor physiotherapist for POIS, but for prostititis.
Visiting the pelvic floor physiotherapist was my best decision this year. I went from antiobiotic all the time to 2 times in 3 months. I have less UTI symptoms since I looked out for my prostate. It really helps to work standing.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: mike_sweden on August 25, 2018, 12:20:23 PM
These specialists are a waste of time, money and energy for POIS patients. Not worth the effort.

i agree, seen some of them and they are only out for the easy bucks

fund research instead
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Simon66 on August 25, 2018, 02:50:39 PM
I developed some kind of tear in my perineum. It seems like it tries to heal but the pain comes back after every O.

I did see a urologist who checked my prostate and my prostate is fine. So the issue is in my perineum, some kind of pelvic floor muscle tear. Not sure if that helps you at all.

Have you had your prostate checked by a doctor? Not a pleasant experience but worthwhile to rule out prostatitis.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on September 28, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
I developed some kind of tear in my perineum. It seems like it tries to heal but the pain comes back after every O.

I did see a urologist who checked my prostate and my prostate is fine. So the issue is in my perineum, some kind of pelvic floor muscle tear. Not sure if that helps you at all.

Have you had your prostate checked by a doctor? Not a pleasant experience but worthwhile to rule out prostatitis.
Yes my prostate was checked by 3 doctors. My family doctor, at the hospital and a special men’s clinic. They didn’t find anything at the prostate.

After every sexual activity I get a prostate infection/UTI. So I use a lot of antibiotics. Because of the antibiotics I get candida. So my question is, is there an alternative for antibiotics. I use garlic and cranberry pills, but they don’t help me.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on September 29, 2018, 07:03:50 AM
Hi Vandemolen,

Sometimes it is not the prostate, but other glands that actually can be part of the problem.

Infection/Inflammation in the bulbo-urethral (cowper's) glands is often ignored by doctors. Any swelling in this gland is not detected by the usual ultrasound imaging test.
 
     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10687976

Another gland - the seminal vesicles could also be affected. A trans-rectal ultrasound imaging test can check if this gland is enlarged.
    https://www.epainassist.com/pelvic-pain/testicles/seminal-vesiculitis

Do  you have any problems with urine flow after an ejaculation ( or even otherwise) - weak flow, dribbling, frequent urination, unable to hold the urine etc.?

A simple uroflowmetry test can confirm if there is a urine flow problem. A retrograde urethrogram test can then confirm where there is a blockage/narrowing of the urethra - as this can potentially cause chronic infections/inflammation or can be due to past infections/injuries.

Not really suggesting you do these tests/procedures. Some of these may be expensive and can cause discomfort.  And of course left to the doctor's judgement. But my personal experience has been that an examination of the  entire urethral tract upto the bladder (like a cystoscopy or urethrogram) can sometimes reveal problems in that area while blood tests can't.
I did have flowmetry a few times. And everything was well. I also did a scopy trough the urethra. They didn’t find anything. The prostate was just a bit swollen. There was only a small cyst near the testicle. And there were prostate stones. They said every has prostate stones and that cyst was very small. I will check the links about the other glands. Thanks.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Hopeoneday on September 29, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
Vander. Does those small cyste (painful on squeze)floating on vesel  free around testicle?
I haw esmall cyste diameter (round) 3mm floating free around testicle (wright),
the size not changend in 20 years.
Whwn i first noticet cyst i tought it is on testicle and that i hawe tumor togedher
with pois symptomes( dying condition, you know pois) i tought that i am finished in those times.

I went to the doctor and he told me that i do not hawe a tumor(testicles are clear).
I ask him whot is that cyste? He told me that he do not hnow what that is, it is importment that not growing.

Title: Re: chronic prostatit
Post by: Vandemolen on September 29, 2018, 07:13:20 PM
Vander. Does those small cyste (painful on squeze)floating on vesel  free around testicle?
I haw esmall cyste diameter (round) 3mm floating free around testicle (wright),
the size not changend in 20 years.
Whwn i first noticet cyst i tought it is on testicle and that i hawe tumor togedher
with pois symptomes( dying condition, you know pois) i tought that i am finished in those times.

I went to the doctor and he told me that i do not hawe a tumor(testicles are clear).
I ask him whot is that cyste? He told me that he do not hnow what that is, it is importment that not growing.
The cyst is very small and inside. I can’t see it and it doesn’t hurt. I asked tye doctor if they could remove the cyst. But he said that the operation is not without risks because there are a lot of nerves.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on October 01, 2018, 07:22:39 AM
Maybe next to the protitis I have mechanical urethritis. Because I masturbate for hours. When I had full POIS I used to do this only once a month, so I thought I have to enjoy this as long as I can because the next time is over a month. I kept this routine even when my POIS got less worse. Now I do it 3 or 4 times a month. But still for hours. That’s not healthy for the urethra. Even not for men who don’t have POIS. I will abstain for a few weeks. And next time I will try to finish in 1 or 2 hours.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 08, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
My doctor gave me Fosfomycin for my prostatitis. Normally Fosfomycin is used by women. They take it only once, sometimes 3 times for a week. But for prostatitis you have take every day 1 for 1 week. And then during at least 5 weeks 1 in 48 hours. I hope it will work. Research showed it workd for some men. The good thing about Fosfomycin is that it doesn’t cause candida.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/cjidmm/2018/1404813/
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on November 17, 2018, 11:29:20 AM
1) How exactly do you know your prostatitis is caused by an infection?

2) What diagnostic criteria did they use for diagnosing your brothers with Crohn's disease?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 17, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
1) How exactly do you know your prostatitis is caused by an infection?

2) What diagnostic criteria did they use for diagnosing your brothers with Crohn's disease?
Sometimes they found bacteria in the urine or semen. But most of the times they didn’t. A few times my prostate was checked and everytime it’s a bit swollen. I also had scans. There were a lot of prostate ‘rocks’. A sign there were a lot of infections.

I don’t know exactly. Because at my oldest brother it was more than 25 years ago. He had an operation. They cut off a bit of the small intestine.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on November 18, 2018, 02:46:19 PM
Do you know what type of bacteria has been found so far?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 18, 2018, 05:08:02 PM
Do you know what type of bacteria has been found so far?
I can’t remember. It’s been a few years ago that they found something. The last urine test was 3 years ago and it was clean. The last semen test maybe more than 5 years ago. And I can’t find any urine test in my hospital dossier. Only blood tests.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on November 19, 2018, 07:21:54 PM
What antibiotic works best for your symptoms?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 20, 2018, 01:38:47 PM
What antibiotic works best for your symptoms?
Cefuroxim.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on November 22, 2018, 04:56:25 PM
Have you gone through scientific articles whether Cefuroxim got other properties like anti-inflammatory effects?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 22, 2018, 05:35:34 PM
Have you gone through scientific articles whether Cefuroxim got other properties like anti-inflammatory effects?
No the reason why I use cefuroxim is because the other antibiotics below cefuroxim didn’t help anymore. Another reason is that the group antibiotics which cefuroxim is part of doesn’t have the side effect that you can’t be in the sun. So I can also use it when I am on holiday and in the summer in The Netherlands.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on November 24, 2018, 06:49:38 PM
Last year after two weeks of antibiotics I get candida. I have to take the antibiotics for 3 weeks. Now I get candida after just 1 week. The problem is that candida also affect the prostate area. What if I don’t take antibiotics? I tried that. But the prostate infection has turned into a pelvic floor inflammation. So I started with antibiotics. After 1 week the pelvic problem was almost gone. But now I have candida. I have this problem for two months now. I can’t get out of the vicious circle.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on December 05, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
What if it is not prostatitis? But it is candida on the penis? Chronic Mild Balanitis? Imflamed glans? I already take minoconazol for oral use for my tongue and mouth. I will buy miconazol for the skin and try the balm for a few weeks.

Some symptoms of prostatitis are the same as Balanitis:
Cold legs and hands
Penis and scrotum itching
Light fever
Feeling sick

But these UTI-symptons are not the same:
Urinate a lot
Stinky urine

The prostate problems come after sexual activity. But what if POIS causes candida in the penis area?
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Vandemolen on December 26, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
I think that I do not have prostatitis. But I have urinary tract allergy. Caused by high histamine. This is the reason why they could not find bacteria in the urine or semen. Only once or twice. At a few test there was nothing to see.

A Dutch article (through Google Translate):

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntvg.nl%2Fartikelen%2Fde-rol-van-allergie-bij-interstiti%25C3%25ABle-cystitis%2Fvolledig

https://www.ntvg.nl/artikelen/de-rol-van-allergie-bij-interstiti%C3%ABle-cystitis/volledig

Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on December 28, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
http://prostatitis.net/causes-of-prostatitis/causes-chronic-prostatitis/mast-cells/
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on January 13, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
Often seen, rarely recognized: mast cell activation disease - a guide to diagnosis and therapeutic options (https://sci-hub.se/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/07853890.2016.1161231)

Table 1, Genitourinary, prostatitis.
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Prospero on March 14, 2021, 05:46:15 AM
Just found this article : Correlation of beta-endorphin and prostaglandin E2 levels in prostatic fluid of patients with chronic prostatitis with diagnosis and treatment response (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3018594/).
"We observed a correlation of higher prostaglandin E2 and lower beta-endorphin in symptomatic men with chronic prostatitis. Increased oxidative stress and inflammation may induce prostaglandin E2 production that would inhibit beta-endorphin release. Treatment with therapeutic agents that decrease oxidative stress, such as antibiotics and antioxidant phytotherapy, may function at least partially by increasing beta-endorphin and decreasing prostaglandin E2."

It speaks of beta-endorphins in prostatic fluid but I wonder if it can be related to beta-endorphin levels elsewhere. In any case I think that there are many "key-words" related to some POIS theories here...
Title: Re: chronic prostatitis
Post by: Muon on March 14, 2021, 06:27:44 AM
@prospero Dump a copy of a paper in the paper archive thread if you see anything interesting in the future. Just added the paper.