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Title: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: COLM_2 on September 30, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Hi Guys,

Not sure if anyone has some tips please.

Am under pressure at work and last week, had an NE, and basically survived on pain killers for a few days to cope on the post POIS phase. Got through to end of the week.

By way of an update, nutritional approaches and supplements have enabled a gradual 2 point reduction (on a 10 point scale) in my normal POIS post O phase.

NE's not so sadly.

If anyone has any up to date techniques they can share on avoiding this unplanned and potentially disastrous career threat, apart from the supplements.

Thanks.
COLM
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on September 30, 2015, 06:13:17 PM
Colm, NE's were my biggest nightmare. Innocent physical release turned my life upside down for 4 days. And unavoidably!

I empathize HUGELY, but the only way mine finally stopped was...aging!

Defsync thinks he found a solution/treatment. It might be on Mat780's POIS Info Website (link is on our Welcome page).  Or you can IM him.

Also, there are nearly 800 posts at NSF on NE:

In the Google Search box, type:
nocturnal emission NE POIS site:http://thenakedscientists.com
Careful to use spaces and no-spaces as shown.

NE's were a soul-killer for me, sad to report.

Best wishes, Colm!


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on September 30, 2015, 10:26:02 PM
Hi Guys,

Not sure if anyone has some tips please.

Am under pressure at work and last week, had an NE, and basically survived on pain killers for a few days to cope on the post POIS phase. Got through to end of the week.

By way of an update, nutritional approaches and supplements have enabled a gradual 2 point reduction (on a 10 point scale) in my normal POIS post O phase.

NE's not so sadly.

If anyone has any up to date techniques they can share on avoiding this unplanned and potentially disastrous career threat, apart from the supplements.

Thanks.
COLM

Hi Colm,

What works for me is "preventive" release at a safe time, when I know I will have time to recover.  Now that I am 50 y/o, once a month, if it happens that I had no release for this long, is enough to prevent NE ( but the length of time will vary from one to another ).  It may not be the same for everybody but in my case, I have a NE if I did not had a release for a prolonged period, and that my "prostate is full" and need to empty a bit. As a sign that it may happen soon, I can sometime have a small leak caused by a normal bowel movement ( as you may know, the prostate is situated just behind the rectum).

Also, when critical to avoid NE, I avoid anything that could trigger my desire, like photos or movies or else.  I have found that "leftovers" in the imagination and mental could lead to having a NE that night.

It is also better to avoid what boosts testosterone, libido or prostate function, like zinc supplements (and food rich in zinc like oysters), lycopene, vitamine E, pumpkin seeds, maca, and the like.

You may try to keep some notes about what you had as food or supplements, and if anything special happened on the day just before the NE, and you may identify some specific NE triggers for you.

I hope that will help you a bit, Colm


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 12:22:20 AM

...had an NE...potentially disastrous career threat...



"Career threat"? I remember once that I gave an important business speech the day after an NE.

Combined with jet lag (which inexplicably was always as bad as POIS in and of itself), I'm *certain* that I came across as a complete bumbling idiot! I wasn't smart enough to take a painkiller. But I was so upset, that I got drunk afterwards to forget my bomb of a speech. Drunk at a conference = career threat #2.

Sheesh!




Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 01:36:51 AM
Defsync :

--- Quote ---

Hello peoples.
I have returned with a small bit of useful info.
I have found a new regiment thats really helped me stave off unwanted nocturnal emissions.
I consume one Monster Energy Java drink a day. Thats it. Now how does this work? Not sure why this particular energy drink is so potent, but it seems to noticeably "desensitize" one as well as lower the sexual urge. I used to use dream control and take a muscle relaxer etc etc. For whatever reason though drinkin one of those Monster Java energy drinks a day has made avoiding NE's so much easier. Im not gonna even begin to dissect the reason, I just know that it works fairly well. Also relieves minor aches and pains, this particular brand of energy drink, so might be helpful for those who have O'ed as well? Anyways, fight the good fight. Im out. Peace

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Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 02:00:39 AM
b_jim is a proponent of Taurine for POIS: interesting to see his comparative concentrations (see energy drinks, I think he refers to Red Bull, on the last line of his post).

"Taurine in food :

fish standard : 90 mg per 100g of dry product
capelin : 143
salmon : 130
mussels : 665
mackerel : 207
pork leaver : 90
oysters : 70
beaf standard : 35
yoghurt : 3.3
energy drink : 400 to 1000 (Red Bxxx) per can "


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: stevenoc on October 01, 2015, 04:33:54 AM
20mg of Prozac works great for ne. It reduces my chance of having one by 90%. Give it a go. It works pretty quickly (a few days).
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: b_jim on October 01, 2015, 04:59:07 AM
The "calm down effect" of taurine is maybe the key.
There are several things to say.

About nocturnal ejaculation (NE)
In my personnal case, I don't consider NE as a real problem or a disease. It's simply the fact we don't have a normal life sex. After 2-3 weeks of abstincence, it happens. Something normal.
But NE like all orgasms forms triggers Pois and Pois is the problem, not NE. Happy to read if taurine helps to avoid NE. But for me, to becaome abstinent is not an objective.
My last NE episode happenend after 30 years. But when you become older, libido decrease and probably this problem will decrease too. If you want to avoid it, of course you must avoid porn. But after a LONG time of abstinence even the fact to meet or to see an attractive woman will cause a stimulation during your sleep. You can't live between 4 walls.

About premature ejaculation (PE) and taurine :
Strangely after taking taurine I had an effect on PE. And I read strange testimoneys on the web of guys having same effects with seefoods.
I think all muscle relaxers can have a positive effect. Maybe the simple fact to relax the Pubo-Coccygeus muscle can help.

About Taurine and Pois.
In the same idea, I remember some guys having Pois improvement with muscle relaxers.

How ?

If I try to compare Pois to menopause syndrome, there is an area in brain called hypothalamus. Hypothalamus contains special cells called Candy Cells and these cells regualate the body temp especially skin temp then causing the famous hotflashed of menopaused women.

Candy cells are influenced by :

- hormonal variation  (evidence for menopaused women, evidence as after effect in some male hormones therapies and supposed during Pois)

- dopamine (stimlator)

-opioids (inhibitor)

So I suspsect of lot of things able to influence these cells and Pois, like Taurine by a "calming effect".


 
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 09:04:08 AM
Great post, b_jim!

I've enjoyed your posts since we both started with the very earliest POIS forum posting in February, 2007!

Best regards,
demo


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 09:11:37 AM
20mg of Prozac works great for ne. It reduces my chance of having one by 90%. Give it a go. It works pretty quickly (a few days).

Maybe my NE's stopped as a combination of getting older + Prozac (now on Lexapro)?
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 01, 2015, 12:07:42 PM
(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab143/demografx/BA437309-26AA-40B6-93EB-C199AB399D9D.jpg)



This thread affected me, right now I am outside the store where I just purchased one Monster Java ("TAURINE" splashed across the top) -- AND a Red Bull!

Maybe I will get to 100% POIS-free after all!

:)


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: COLM_2 on October 02, 2015, 04:57:36 AM
Demo, Quantum, Jim B, Stevenoc,

Thanks very much for your considered replies here. I will study these over the weekend.

Gratefully appreciated.

COLM
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 05, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
Loca Moca
Java Monster
Better than Starbucks!!


(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab143/demografx/B142A738-63DB-490D-BF09-549604ADEC5A.jpg)
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 05, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me??

The snapshot I took (above) looks like 3-D!
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: demografx on October 05, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
I just called the Monster Energy company and asked if all their products have the same amount of Taurine. The coffee drink I really like (above post - it's not carbonated, which I prefer) made me wonder.

They said yes, it's the same amount of Taurine across all their products, but they would not reveal the specific amount (its their proprietary "energy mix").


Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Neutral on October 05, 2016, 09:25:32 PM
Does anyone have any other suggestions for preventing NE's? I'm desperate...
Also can I get an update on the monster energy drinks with taurine? People still using that?
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on October 14, 2016, 12:10:04 PM
Hi Neutral,

I recently realized that the disinhibiting effect of alcohol may lead to a NE.

As already mentioned, it is best to avoid arousing thoughts from viewing an erotic movie sequence or from viewing sexy pictures, or just seeing an attractive woman on the street, but it is not always possible to avoid.

If you add to that some wine or some beer, you raise the probabilities of having a NE, because of the well known disinhibiting effect of alcohol on human drives.  And I take only very small amount of alcohol, like half a glass, but it is enough for having a psychological effect  ( I have noticed for a long time that I dream much more when I have taken some alcohol).

Anybody else have noticed this effect with alcohol ?

Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: mardi on October 17, 2016, 07:58:26 AM


Hi SuperSam, Thanks for your reply. This will help those interested to figure out if it's worth a try for themselves.

You wrote about having lesser form of POIS with lower levels of sexual stimulation.  You are not the only member here experiencing this.  Some members will have symptoms from prostatic fluid release (pre-cum), some members will have symptoms even if a very low level of sexual stimulation, like thinking about an attractive women.  Other situations like a prostate leak caused by passing a large stool can also be a trigger for a partial form of POIS.  However, for others, ejaculation, or the slightest emission of semen, is the only trigger. 

It has been outlined, and it seems so, that it is not orgasm that triggers POIS, but ejaculation.  Some members have noted that an ejaculation without any pleasure associated with will still trigger the same POIS as usual ( POIS could be named PEIS, post ejaculation illness syndrome, but after 10 years and some research using the term coined by Dr Waldinger, the POIS designation will remain, for sure).  Some other triggers, like a prostate leak, tend to confirm that it is the physical release of semen that initiate the POIS reaction, and absolutely not the neurotransmitters frenzy occurring in the brain ( correlation is not causation, as science says).

Hello Quantum,
I am not writing a lot in this forum (because I am not able to write in english very good) but I follow and, as all of us, I am a POISer since several years.
During the last year the POIS symptoms seemed to slowly fade away (only 1-2 days). But in the last 2 months, when I increased my sexual activity, the symptoms got really worst, and now I am in a really difficult situation, because I am having POIS even without having a proper orgasm, just thinking about sex. Actually in these days I am really afraid that in every moment of the day a POIS can happen.
I tried for the first time Niacin (Swanson 100mg) and it seems to make it a little bit better (but it could be only placebo).
What I am asking to myself and to all the community is: is POIS a problem connected with the brain, with for example the doses of dopamine, testosteron, serotonine.... (and so independent from the effective ejaculation) or is it a “physical” reaction that is strictly connected with the operation of the reproductive system?
I know that this is one of the questions to which all us is trying to answer, but I think that this is the point: whether it is an endocrynological problem, that concerns the brain and the nerves, or maybe a phisiological condition, for example an allergy or a disfunction of the genitals (a “mechanical” disfunction).
I think that this should be the first thing on which all the community should try to focus, in order to understand how to move on to find a cure.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on October 17, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
Hi Mardi,

The cumulative worsening of POIS symptoms you describe is common to almost every POIS sufferers, I think.  When we intensify sexual activities and there is less time between ejaculations, and that you haven still not fully recover from the previous one, the symptoms worsens.  In your case, it looks like after 2 months, they get pretty constant, so you may need some break time to let your body and mond fully recover.

Regarding your comments on POIS cause, have you read this thread - http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2078.msg16404#msg16404 ?  It is mostly about the questions you raise.  You can also find in this thread,  a detailed version of my own point of view on the cause and pathophysiology of POIS, at http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2078.msg16431#msg16431 
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: mardi on October 18, 2016, 02:08:47 AM
Hi Quantum,
thanks for the answer!
I read your linked post just now, and I must say that, even if I don’t have a deep knowledge about medicine and chemistry, I absolutely agree with your analysis: neurological and physical syndrome, similar to the symptoms of an allergy.
This would explain also why for some POISers the phisical activity (sweating, liberating toxines), or the niacin (which works exactly as an anthistamine) could give some results (also to me).
I only doubt about one thing: I don’t think that the POIS reaction is connected directly with orgasm,  but I think that we can not say that it is related directly with semen.
 There are a loto f POISers that can have POIS just having some erotic thoughts, and some of us (also me) have POIS also with a dry ejaculation. That’s why I suppose that the problem does not belong to semen itself, and neither to orgasm, but to the proceedings that in the brain regluate the process of ejaculation. Now, I am not a doctor and I don’t know exactly this things, but before the physical moment of ejaculation something might happen in the brain, some chemical reactions that create a kind of “chain” that bring to the moment of ejaculating. I think that the problem, and the solution, is there!
By the way, I think that is great to exchange our ideas in this forum, and I would really like if one day it would be possible that all of us could meet personally, like in a congress or a manifestation that will definitely reveal the existence of POIS to the rest of the world (and especially of the doctors!).
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on October 27, 2016, 08:55:53 AM
This thread being titled "Latest ideas on NE avoidance", here is my latest idea: wearing very large and ample boxer shorts for the night.   I recently realized that wearing a bower short that is a little too tight will increase the stimulation by friction, when "morning wood" occurs. This tend to cause me sex-oriented dreams and intense, long-lasting morning wood, which increase the probabilities of a NE. By wearing a very slack boxer short, there is far less chance of this "wrapping" phenomenon at the tip of the sex, causing less stimulation.

So from now on, I will wear only very large boxer shorts for the night.  If this helps me have NE less often, that's a step further toward less and less POIS symptoms.   

I hope this will help me, and other members, having less NE.

Of course, if I have fantasy all day, watch the girls on the street, listen to Games of Throne, even touch myself a bit during the day, and regularly take sex-stimulating supplements ( zinc, lycopene, nitric-oxyde producing supplement, etc...), the type of boxer shorts I wear will not have a significant impact on increasing the number of days or week before the next NE - I think you understand it is just a refinement in an overall approach.



Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Limitbreaker on November 09, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
To deal with NE, you must write down your dreams every day in the morning, even if you remember nothing, write down that you remember nothing. Then you'll gain more lucidity in your dreams and you can consciously decide in your dream that you do not want to have sex/orgasm due to POIS symptoms. That's what I do. It is the single and only method that I use, and is most reliable.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on November 09, 2016, 07:46:57 PM
To deal with NE, you must write down your dreams every day in the morning, even if you remember nothing, write down that you remember nothing. Then you'll gain more lucidity in your dreams and you can consciously decide in your dream that you do not want to have sex/orgasm due to POIS symptoms. That's what I do. It is the single and only method that I use, and is most reliable.

Very interesting technique, Limitbreaker.  I do remember to sometime have influenced the outcome of a dream by conscious or half-conscious intervention.

How long can you be without NE, on average, with that method?
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Limitbreaker on November 10, 2016, 05:18:51 AM
So far I've only tried 2 weeks, several times. Check this out: I just had 2 weeks break from orgasm. It ended yesterday, and I did not have sex that day. However this very night I instantly had a wet dream, just because my consciousness knew that the wait is over and that it can go wild and do whatever it wants, lol.

 I am pretty sure that if I wanted I could go longer without NE. I've also recently decided not to cheat on my girlfriend in my dreams (and so did my girlfriend), and guess what, this is my first NE since that decision and I had orgasm without having actualy sex with a stranger in my dream. All my previous wet dreams would be about a stranger, or my girlfriend, but generally I'd cheat on her in an unconscious way.

The fix to NE is to make what is unconscious - conscious, by noting down the dreams everyday at least for 2 weeks in the beginning, and if you've got your effect out of it i.e. becoming lucid in your dream when sex scene happens and that you deny it, you can go on with writing down your dreams once in a while. You need to make a habit out of becoming conscious when wet dream appears though. Be it your trigger. You could also try writing down in your dream journal that you do not want to orgasm in dreams because and write down reasons, this should definitely improve your chances to learn inhibiting NE, although I did not try that because I've got the effect pretty easily, I wonder if others would get it as easy as I did. Although, I have to say that I've been watching my dreams for a longer time now and I see continuity in my dreams --> waking state and waking state --> dreams. As in, I see how my fears, hopes and other emotions from waking life continue into the dreams and vice versa. It is a fact for everyone to notice and I wish you that. Anyways, that's why it could have been easier for me.

Any lucid dream techniques you might have heard about apply to NE. Since with lucid dreaming you can choose to have sex with anyone... You can also choose not to have sex. Although, you do not need to actually learn to lucid dream to stop NEs - I don't lucid dream, and I stop NEs. I gain lucidity only for a glimpse moment when I am about to have sex, the earlier I notice it's gonna happen the better, and then I lose it (or not) and the dream goes on.

And last but not least: I had this NE today in the morning and today I'm trying to fast until evening. Aside fasting, so far I haven't noticed any increased symptoms of POIS today. I came back from working abroad weeks ago, was sick when I came back, I had a lot of sex and orgasms and a week of orgasms left me really POIS symptomatic for so far over 2 weeks. This time symptoms subside much slower, however, again, I had NE few hours ago and no increase in symptoms.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on August 16, 2017, 08:54:35 AM
I wanted to re-post here a link to an article on NE that has been shared by rudolphacunha this week:

https://www.seedoc.co/why-nightfall-happen-when-i-eat-much-and-when-i-recovered-it-happen-every-week-it-makes-me-dull-any-treatment/

Many tips are given, maybe some of you will find something useful in it to reduce nocturnal emissions to a minimum.

The article is quite short, so here it is, copy and paste:

"Hi, problems of nightfall are quite common in this age group. it is not a medical disorder and happens most often due to excess accumulation of semen.
generally the condition is not seen after marriage.
1. eat less of oily and fast food
2. almonds 3-5 daily
3. eat less in dinner, drink more water
4. masturbation is not contraindicated, rather it is one of the safest form of personal sexual gratification but off course not in excess.

Night fall or wet dreams is a very common occurrence among men, especially among adolescents . This condition is characterized by involuntary ejaculation during sleep in the night or in the early hours of the morning. The problem of night fall can be very frustrating for young men because most of the times they don’t understand the reason for it and also because it is a very embarrassing thing to discuss with not only their parents but also with their peers.
The frequency of these nocturnal emissions varies from person to person, most men only experience this condition in their adolescent years but few may suffer from it all their lives. this condition is very common and nothing really to worry about except in very few cases where it is very frequent spread over a long period of time.
Exercising regularly and avoiding spicy foods can lessen the frequency of nightfall.
1. Should start jogging or brisk walking for at least 30 minutes every day.
2. Should avoid consumption of any liquid for at least 2 hours before going to sleep.
3. Should go for urination just before going to bed.
4. Should avoid watching porn or erotic chats etc.
5. Start listening to soothing music which gives peace of mind and gives soothing effects like the meditation gives.
6. Should start reading good books at the time to keep the brain relaxed for a sound sleep.
7. If night fall happens then one should not worry about this, because if people keep on thinking about nightfall or have the fear of night fall at the time of sleeping then you get more chances to have the night fall again.
8. Should avoid constipation because an upset digestive system also sometimes causes night fall.
9. If the person is having the habit of taking milk at night then they should take milk in the evening instead of at night.
10. Start doing masturbation once in a while may help control night fall.
Remember to talk to your doctor before you start or stop your medications and never self medicate. "


Obviously, for those with POIS like us, #10 tip should be a "planned release", that is, taking a pre-pack that you know helps control and lower your symptoms, 1 hours before release, so you won't get full blast POIS cycle.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: BoneBroth on September 22, 2020, 01:40:52 PM
I'm wondring about point nr 2. "Should avoid consumption of any liquid for at least 2 hours before going to sleep.". Is the reason for this that the sleep will be interrupted because of toilet visits, and NE is most likely to occur in shallow sleep states?
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on September 23, 2020, 06:23:20 PM
I'm wondring about point nr 2. "Should avoid consumption of any liquid for at least 2 hours before going to sleep.". Is the reason for this that the sleep will be interrupted because of toilet visits, and NE is most likely to occur in shallow sleep states?

Hi BoneBroth,
I think it is more related to the fact that a full bladder could press against and stimulate the sacral nerve ( https://health.clevelandclinic.org/men-get-morning-erections-5-answers-questions/ ).   
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: BoneBroth on September 30, 2020, 05:05:26 AM
That was interesting, do you have any other sollutions for prolonged erection during sleep? I have found that I don't sleep well in that state and NE's certainly more likely to appear.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: BoneBroth on April 02, 2021, 03:34:52 PM
Wonder if the sugar in the Monster drink helps the taurine to enter the cells better. If not, it would be healthier to take a taurine as a supplement.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Muon on April 02, 2021, 03:43:42 PM
Wonder if the sugar in the Monster drink helps the taurine to enter the cells better. If not, it would be healthier to take a taurine as a supplement.
It might be the other way.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: BoneBroth on April 03, 2021, 04:21:05 AM
That the sugar inhibits the taurine from beeing uptaked by the cells or that the taurine increase the suger uptake?
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: BoneBroth on June 02, 2021, 05:54:32 AM
I just had a NE tonight and toook a strong coffee plus a monster drink (plus the other post packs). No improvements at all after 1 hour...
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Progecitor on June 02, 2021, 08:57:35 AM
I haven't had a NE for months, but tonight I also had one. Actually I had two consecutive Os 2 and 3 days ago, so I was really not in the mood for sexual activity, but it still occured. In the morning I realized that my mistake must have been that I ate a few sandwitches with cheese in the evening. Even though cheese doesn't seem to do much to POIS itself I realized years ago that it makes me very prone to NE. It doesn't mean that I have NE every time I eat cheese, but this makes it very likely to happen. Eating it in the evening looks to be especially risky. Of course this was all due to an erotic dream, but I don't see why I dream about it when I haven't had any thought of it the whole day, while at other times I even watch some porn without an O and I still don't have such dreams.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Quantum on June 02, 2021, 07:57:42 PM
I haven't had a NE for months, but tonight I also had one. Actually I had two consecutive Os 2 and 3 days ago, so I was really not in the mood for sexual activity, but it still occured. In the morning I realized that my mistake must have been that I ate a few sandwitches with cheese in the evening. Even though cheese doesn't seem to do much to POIS itself I realized years ago that it makes me very prone to NE. It doesn't mean that I have NE every time I eat cheese, but this makes it very likely to happen. Eating it in the evening looks to be especially risky. Of course this was all due to an erotic dream, but I don't see why I dream about it when I haven't had any thought of it the whole day, while at other times I even watch some porn without an O and I still don't have such dreams.

Do you eat aged cheese, blue cheese, brie, cheddar or feta ?  they all contains tyramine, which has an effect on monoamines metabolism (like dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine), see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyramine#Physical_effects_and_pharmacology . 

I do not know if there is a link in your case of cheese vs NE, but it could be interesting to be investigated.
Title: Re: Latest Ideas on NE Avoidance
Post by: Progecitor on June 03, 2021, 12:25:52 AM
I haven't had a NE for months, but tonight I also had one. Actually I had two consecutive Os 2 and 3 days ago, so I was really not in the mood for sexual activity, but it still occured. In the morning I realized that my mistake must have been that I ate a few sandwitches with cheese in the evening. Even though cheese doesn't seem to do much to POIS itself I realized years ago that it makes me very prone to NE. It doesn't mean that I have NE every time I eat cheese, but this makes it very likely to happen. Eating it in the evening looks to be especially risky. Of course this was all due to an erotic dream, but I don't see why I dream about it when I haven't had any thought of it the whole day, while at other times I even watch some porn without an O and I still don't have such dreams.

Do you eat aged cheese, blue cheese, brie, cheddar or feta ?  they all contains tyramine, which has an effect on monoamines metabolism (like dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine), see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyramine#Physical_effects_and_pharmacology . 

I do not know if there is a link in your case of cheese vs NE, but it could be interesting to be investigated.

The cheese we consume most of the times is called Trappista cheese. It is a general consumer product which is not very expensive. The one I just ate is said to be lactose free, so this probably has nothing to do with NE at least. I rarely eat other kinds of cheese as they are expensive for my budget. I like the taste of cheese, but not to the degree I would say that I can't live without it.
Nevertheless thanks for the information about tyramine! I will keep an eye on it while reading articles. I will also try some of the cheese you mentioned to see if something similar happens, although I can't say my suspicion about this is absolutely confirmed. My intention was partially to raise awareness and see if others may have experienced something similar.