Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (P.O.I.S.)
POIS Life Style => The Down Side => Topic started by: kristobal on May 12, 2014, 09:55:23 AM
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Hi guys,
I'm new here.
Been having severe fatigue/concentration issues/brain fog/anxiety/low stress resistance for over two years now.
It got to the point where I couldn't function at work anymore.
I always knew orgasm exacerbated my situation, and certainly PMO (watching porn).
Blood tests always come up with: Normal to HIGH total cortisol, but LOW FREE CORTISOL (below range), low DHEA, low PREGNENOLONE.
So that dictates adrenal fatigue.
But then again, I only discovered POIS diagnosis recently, so I am going to try no PMO, NOFAP, abstinence for as long as possible now.
Are there any people here who have the same doubts about their diagnosis/condition as I have?
Thanks for your reply,
K.
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What you describe is common among us here. if not; the universal POIS symptom regardless of degree of severity of symptoms (a chronic fatigue of sorts).
I also have elevated cortisol and testosterone, yet do not know progesterone levels. Blood tests always come back inconclusive or fine for me as well, with the exception of immunogobulins E and a spinal tap reveling slightly elevated proteins in CSF.
Sometimes my adrenaline goes for so long I feel manic, other times, as inflammation reduces I feel exhausted and very inflexible. I would rather the inflammation than that odd adrenaline fueled mania (where the inflammation is actually greater yet I cannot feel it because I numb out from the high pain).
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I'm searching and browsing through old chats regarding adrenal fatigue and POIS
Can anyone remember interesting conclusions or references that came up?
My doc asked me if I can find something regarding this.
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I'm searching and browsing through old chats regarding adrenal fatigue and POIS
Can anyone remember interesting conclusions or references that came up?
My doc asked me if I can find something regarding this.
Hi, less_fogged --
The diagnosis of "adrenal fatigue" is not yet accepted by mainstream medicine. Your physician is probably having a devil of a time finding reliable information.
I take it from your post that you've searched the forum (via the search box) for "adrenal fatigue," and have found several previous posts. I don't know if there were any definite conclusions or good references in those posts. I did just do a google search and a PubMed search for "adrenal fatigue," but found nothing to recommend.
Maybe some of your comrades here will have some helpful information to share.
Best wishes,
Stef
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Since 2007, most of the posts addressing "adrenal fatigue" have not been scientifically based.
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I accept the idea that adrenal fatigue is not a real disease and not argued by real facts.
But :
1/ Nowadays, medias AND doctors use more and more the word "burn out" at work which is exactly the SAME THING !!
2/ If my heart, my kidneys or other organs can be fatigued because I'm old, I drank too much alcohol or for any reason, I can"t understand why my adrenal glands couldn't be fatigued by too much stress.
3/ Some article like this :
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/286390
"WHO recognizes adrenal fatigue syndrome as real ailment"
I sent a mail to stephanie Dearing but I never got the original article from the WHO !
So, the debate is not closed on this subject.
Remember the debate about opioid peptids.
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Good points to consider, b_jim.
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Thanks stef, b_jim and demo for the tips
Every time I visit my doc, he's puzzled at knowing how he could help me further. And without being able to get a diagnosis it can sometimes make things pretty complex regarding social security which is why he's searching hard.
All I can do and have done is make myself ill from the one day to the next and show him the state I get in when POIS hits me hard and willing to allow him draw my blood etc... proving I'm not taking drugs or something causing this on purpose!!! Besides this all I can do is put him in contact with previous docs that I've been in contact with over the years while I was trying to figure out what exactly my problem was.
All together for me a combination of abstaining as much as possible together with a healthy diet keeps my head reasonably clear but chest inflammation stays another story. The inflammation part asks for a lot of homework though to try prevent sleep interuption. During the day I feel like staying active is what helps the most to keep inflammation partly under control.
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Hello
In my opinion , POIS is definitely related with the adrenals / adrenal fatigue.
To give you an example , in my case when I have POIS symptoms, lately I have a ache of my left adrenal gland...
If you google for adrenal fatigue symptoms you will find that they are very similar with POIS ones. (almost identical)
And , there is a known fact that orgasm is causing spikes in cortisol (pituitary glad involved here) . Who produces that one ? Adrenals.
Exposing adrenals to repeated stress - can lead to adrenal fatigue .
Even further - you may ask yourself POIS could be in fact a specific form of adrenal fatigue?
By the way - could be just a coincidence, both , POIS and adrenal fatigue ,are not accepted as recognised medical conditions...
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Since 2007, most of the posts addressing "adrenal fatigue" have not been scientifically based.
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Hey man,
I completely sympathize with you here. Have you tried supplementing with something like pregnenalone? Also, I recommend looking into some thyroid labs, if you haven't already. They could yield some important information.