Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (P.O.I.S.)

POIS Life Style => The Down Side => Topic started by: demografx on March 29, 2011, 09:47:58 AM

Title: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: demografx on March 29, 2011, 09:47:58 AM
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Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on March 29, 2011, 02:32:26 PM
Personally i am have been working on stoping NE and sex dreams( dreams about sex that cause POIS)
I know defysnc has a method but i dont think that method will stop sex dreams but i plan on trying it in the future.
Martin88 has tried an extreme diet that works
A old paper that suggest some ideas to preventing NE's

Methods i have tried but didnt work.
-sleeping with a bed that has a hole
- sleeping on my stomach in big pants and preventing myself from moving from that poistion
- sleeping on couch dosent work, you eventually move around.

Methods i plan to use
sleep on side
- i am using the full body pillow called snoggle that keeps me on my side but if my legs can move it will not stop me from switching to sleeping on my back
- i need help figuring out a way to keep leg in place during the night

Rapaflo; hoping since rapaflo can stop semen leakage i wouldnt have to worry about NEs at all.

Hopefully those with NE problems can come together and brain storm ways to stop them.
I get mine pretty much every week.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on March 29, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
For me, like Demo, the growing older method works,  although that method has it's side effects.  ;D

Fortunately when I had NE's my POIS hadn't started yet! As a matter of fact, I went through a period of lucid dreaming where at times I would seek out sexual adventures.

But I really feel for you all now! If I had an NE once a week, there'd be no "normal sex" for me. I even avoid masturbation, because that means I'd have to give up the real thing with the wifey!



Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on March 29, 2011, 03:20:51 PM

Rapaflo; hoping since rapaflo can stop semen leakage i wouldnt have to worry about NEs at all.

Hopefully those with NE problems can come together and brain storm ways to stop them.
I get mine pretty much every week.


Sorry what's Rapaflo? Had we talked about that on the NSF?

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on March 30, 2011, 02:53:35 PM

Rapaflo; hoping since rapaflo can stop semen leakage i wouldnt have to worry about NEs at all.

Hopefully those with NE problems can come together and brain storm ways to stop them.
I get mine pretty much every week.


Sorry what's Rapaflo? Had we talked about that on the NSF?


american brand name for silodosin.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on April 10, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
I haven't had one in years -- the last time was when I was ~18 and away at a camp for a month.

I can never restrain myself from sex or masturbation long enough tot have them, I suppose. 2 weeks is my absolute maximum.

I suppose that I should be glad that my sex drive is so low that I don't get them more often.

Sometimes, I have erotic dreams which lead to leakage + minor POIS effects, but that's it.

you got to try to see if you can go more than two weeks, just to see the limit before an NE.
in the past i went a month before an NE and the NE happend the day before my trip with frat brothers.
i was so pissed ruined my trip.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: hurray on April 22, 2011, 06:07:10 AM
My gut feeling is that Silodosin could be an excellent medication for preventing NEs - if it can stop me having a wide-awake, full-on O, it might be just the thing for NEs. Beware the fatigue symptoms that I suffered though - and of course only take under proper medical supervision.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: b_jim on April 23, 2011, 02:04:40 AM
NE is not really a problem, in my case. I think the males may have 2-3 ejaculations a week at least. Lot of us can't reach this number. So, we have more erotic dreams to balance it and then NE. It sounds strange to have NE after 20, 25, 30 or more but it's logical. Since 2008, I can have 1 or 2 orgasm a week and I din't have NE. Before, I sometimes have 3 or 4 weeks of abstinence (max 7 weeks) and often the abstinence was breaked by NE.
So I don't have problem with NE.


Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: hurray on April 28, 2011, 05:44:48 AM
No, I don't suffer from NEs myself unless I go for a very long time without O. Everybody gets them eventually, even Buddhist monks!
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on April 28, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
Namaste!  :D
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on April 28, 2011, 12:29:21 PM
No, I don't suffer from NEs myself unless I go for a very long time without O. Everybody gets them eventually, even Buddhist monks!

"No Monk's the body suppose to somehow reabosorb the sperm", that dosent make any kind of sense
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Starsky on June 04, 2011, 08:47:45 AM
Is it worth to start taking Cipramil/Celexa to stop the nocturnal emissions?
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on June 06, 2011, 08:09:59 AM
Didn't find much on NSF, as I indicagted over there. The little that I saw over there was fairly negative, that it didn't do much.

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on June 24, 2011, 09:44:01 AM
on controlling NE's i now belive if you cut calories and have severly reduce water and food at dinner time you will reduce NE, i just noticed i have not had any NE's since i have been trying to loose weight again. I will keep trying this for a while to see what happens.

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on June 24, 2011, 01:18:25 PM
At least it's giving you a break and a good reason to maintain your diet.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on August 10, 2011, 01:24:57 PM
i looking for a way to help those who have problems with nocturnal emissions with niacin. i have noticed the chances for NE skyrocket on the 4th day without orgasm and the chances increase everyday after after that.  We can start using niacin right when we go to sleep to see if it blocks the effects of NEs.
am thinking 150mg right when i go to sleep and if i wake up in the middle of the night another 150mg (i have 10hrs sleep days to make up for days i didnt get enough sleep) so i dose might not be enough.   If it dose work and we heal, we start a pattern of having orgasm every four days to stay normal and keep nes away.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on August 10, 2011, 07:26:51 PM
Yeah, the last sentence makes the most sense.

If those who have NE problems have orgasm once every three or four days, they should have much fewer NEs, and it shouldn't be necesary to take a preventitive dose every day to assure that you don't suffer IF you have an NE.

Taking every day will raise the flush threshold, and before long you'll need to take a large amount just to prevent.

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Ccconfucius on August 10, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
i looking for a way to help those who have problems with nocturnal emissions with niacin. i have noticed the chances for NE skyrocket on the 4th day without orgasm and the chances increase everyday after after that.  We can start using niacin right when we go to sleep to see if it blocks the effects of NEs.
am thinking 150mg right when i go to sleep and if i wake up in the middle of the night another 150mg (i have 10hrs sleep days to make up for days i didnt get enough sleep) so i dose might not be enough.   If it dose work and we heal, we start a pattern of having orgasm every four days to stay normal and keep nes away.

I am re - writting sounds confusing.   

If you are always in pois because NES, start using niacin at night riight before going to sleep, so when you do have an NE it wont cause pois.  But inorder to prevent you from using it for a whole week ( or as long as it takes you to recover if it is over a week) start taking niacin four days after your orgasm until you heal when you do heal have an orgasm with niacin to prevent pois.   Wait four days without niacin and have an orgasm using niacin on the fourth day. That way you are not uisng niacin everyday and reducing your chances of NEs. 

*  The reason why i use four days is because that is when i start having NEs after orgasm.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: MrMoonJr on September 12, 2011, 12:06:58 PM
Taking Niacin is a really good idea. I have NE every Three Weeks. Im 19 so its really really <<<< hard for me to abstain but everytime I think about POIS symptoms I cringe and get afraid ): So if you are saying.. chances for a "wet dream" happen exponentially more after the fourth day, then would it be harmful to take a pill every night before you go to bed, after the third day without O?
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Daveman on September 12, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Probably the best is to take the niacin on the third or fourth day AND have an orgasm. POIS is reduced a lot by the niacin, and also doesn't last as long. But having an orgasm every 3 or 4 days should reduce the NEs to almost zero.

If you take the niacin every day (after the 3rd day) you may be prepared for the NE but you stand to reduce you sensitivity to the niacin by taking more. You would probably have to increase the dosage the more you take, which can get hard on the liver.

It would be better to have your orgasm in a controlled fashion, just after taking the niacin, thereby reducing the risk of having an NE.

Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: MrMoonJr on September 13, 2011, 06:51:52 PM
You make a really good point Daveman, and I think its important message to everyone. That we cant abuse the niacin now that we do have it. It can be like you said damaging on our liver. I actually had an interseting conversation with a pharmacologist on that topic. (: thanks for sharing that though... otherwise I would of just taken it :p haha. Its always good to be informed before making any decisions with your health
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Chris on January 31, 2013, 01:48:58 PM
As i already mentioned in the forum nocturnal emissions dont cause me POIS symptoms but last week i had 2 nocturnal emissions in a row in a period of 2 days while sleeping because i havent been active for 23 days.The first NE as expected didnt cause me POIS symptoms but the second one cause me at least 70 % of symptoms that i get from an orgasm.I wonder if the amount of sperm that we ejaculate matters because this is what i get.Any comments on this one?
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: PBO on February 06, 2013, 04:18:32 AM
Hi,

Lately I?ve had to abstain because of exams. While I was abstaining, I ?ve suffered a couple of night emissions. I?ve experienced something very curious: one of this night emissions happened while I was having a very vivid dream to the point I even reached orgasm and felt pleasure. This gaved me POIS. The other night emission just happened, without dreaming and experimenting no orgasm/pleasure. This didn?t gave me any POIS. Strange? All this made me think in Fenugreek. People who have tried it say that the pleasure of orgasms was less and that thanks to fenugreek, their symptoms were less intense and lasted less. Now, I think I?m convinced there  is a positive correlation between the intensity of the orgasm and the severity and duration of a POIS episode. Any ideas?
Thanks for listening to me?

PBO
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: poisioq on February 06, 2013, 05:48:10 AM
For me the higher is the intensity of the O, the lower are the POIS symptoms  :-\
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Mrpebbles on March 06, 2013, 01:52:29 AM
For me the higher is the intensity of the O, the lower are the POIS symptoms  :-\

And I am the exact opposite. A lot of ejaculate means it has been many days/weeks since O, and symptoms are just bad.  When I have a little ejaculate, it means its been only a few days, and i am probably in a pois state already.  it almost hurts in my lower testicles coming out, and definitely not pleasurable.  When this happens, I am in a severe pois state for at least a week with extreme extreme fog, and my mind feels disconnected from my body, and my thoughts and interactions with people feels dream like.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: auzzie_mikey on March 31, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
There seems to be alot of mixed experiences people report of having/not having POIS after a NE.

I am currently on Day 55 of no PMO and had my first wet dream on Day 47. The symptoms from my NE were less than normal orgasm, however, I still had strong POIS. It took me 5 days to recover.

Does Niacin really help prevent POIS? I read the reviews of people and there seems to be no consensus. Everyone provides differing views?
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Prancer on March 31, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
@Prancer. I have heard a lot of people saying that as you get more wet dreams, you recover quicker. How long does it take you to recover from wet dreams?

ANd really as you get more wet dreams, you always take the same amount of days to recover from symptoms?

Takes me about 3 days minimum if I get a restful sleep each night. I don't get wet dreams often, but yes, the amount of days is roughly the same. More orgasms (wet dream or not) unfortunately do not speed up my recovery time. And if they are too close together my symptoms will be worse.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: LegatoMan on April 07, 2014, 03:46:31 PM
NEs don't follow any kind of rhythm for me. One time I didn't masturbate for 30 days, and never once had a NE. One other time I masturbated, and had a NE the very next night. I think it depends on a number of factors: the erotic content of your dreams, your need for release (physical or psychological) , and the strength of your kegel muscle! I had my first ever wet dream when I was 19, and it was after a couple of days of kegel exercises, which I had never done before.

And yes, NEs cause POIS symptoms with me too. But I usually masturbate too frequently for them to happen. Because in a way, I feel extra shitty when I've had a NE because I have POIS symptoms but didn't get to enjoy the orgasm!!  >:( So my current motto is, try to delay ejaculation for as long as possible... but if you really HAVE to, at least make masturbation into an enjoyable event... draw it out, watch some good porn, etc. So at least it's kinda worth it! Nothing is worse than just throwing an ejaculation down the toilet out of frustration. Believe me I've been there!  :-[
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: sameer7777 on April 07, 2014, 05:52:10 PM
One think i am 100% sure , the pois started for me in after NE when i was 18 i think ......the noticable symptoms was i couldnt wear my sun glasses while driving or walking , it gives me like i will fall down or do vomit ...... Any link any of you guys pls ....
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Scary sheep on May 13, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
I think my experience with NE's is different than some people's. For me, my symptoms end up being equal to or worse than otherwise. I personally don't think the disease has anything to do with ejaculation either. I've had two NE's without ejaculation or even erection (because I attempted to avoid them by sleeping with a scarf tied around my legs (we do crazy things don't we)) and still experienced full symptoms. Since my cycle is almost always exactly 5 1/2 days of full symptoms (with sudden recovery over 5-6 hours on day 6) they're a real struggle. I don't masturbate anymore at all and am not sexually active, but at my age, 17, NE's are frequent and come every 2-3 weeks, which makes life absolutely miserable.

If I never had to go to sleep again, I would be so happy.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: Mishlen on September 17, 2014, 11:02:52 AM
I have had only 3 NE in my life, but all of them has been my best orgasms of all. And no symptoms afterwards. I wish i could have them more.
Title: Re: Nocturnal Emissions (NE's)
Post by: radditz on September 25, 2014, 06:40:24 AM
i got them usually after 2-3 weeks of abstinence. sometimes i have those precum-only ne, which cause only light POIS. on a full NE i also have full POIS, which can be frustrating.

but sometimes i can control sexual thoughts in my dreams due to lucid dreaming. for me it is way more difficult to resist in dreams, but not impossible at all. i think this can be trained, like the normal willpower to abstain from sex.

Title: Unexpected emission relief
Post by: blademaster87 on July 20, 2021, 01:20:02 PM
Hello everyone. A quick question: If I happen to have an unexpected emission (wet dream), will the vitamin b3 (niacin) flush still alleviate the symptoms when taken after ejaculating? From what I read this is the most universal substance to get relief from the terrible effects. Any other methods of easing this burden would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and sorry if this is in the wrong forum.