POISCENTER

POIS Cause/Treatment Discussions => General Alternative Causes and Treatments of POIS => Topic started by: sameer7777 on September 15, 2012, 06:51:29 PM

Title: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: sameer7777 on September 15, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Pls guide me am I allergic to some thing I don't know
Well I am abstaining my self too
Pls guide
Sameer
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: Prancer on September 15, 2012, 10:28:07 PM
I looked it up and it said it's a "chocolate-covered wafer biscuit bar". Sometimes sweets make me feel really good for a very short time while in POIS, but afterwards I get a crash and feel terrible. Not sure of the cause though.
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 16, 2012, 04:23:09 AM
I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Pls guide me am I allergic to some thing I don't know
Well I am abstaining my self too
Pls guide
Sameer

Could be the cocoa, could be the milk. You haven't given us much information.
Are you allergic to dairy products? I am and milk chocolate like that in Kit Kats blocks my sinuses too.

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2012, 04:50:15 AM
Its the sugar which gives you increased gut permability, but ih you have problems with leaky gut you get intoxicated and the body tries get rid off it producing mucus etc.
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 16, 2012, 05:01:43 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: sameer7777 on September 16, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
Thanks for the reply all  !!!!!
I don't am I allergic to chocolate no I don't think so !!
I have a bit high glucose level too
This could be the reason ????
I am not sure !!!
Sameer
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 16, 2012, 05:10:58 AM
I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Pls guide me am I allergic to some thing I don't know
Well I am abstaining my self too
Pls guide
Sameer

is it the first time you get this reaction or you already had it with some other food?
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 16, 2012, 05:26:13 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: sameer7777 on September 16, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
many times i felt that .........
i do have bit high glucose !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 16, 2012, 05:53:32 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them
Title: 1st day at Pois pls guide
Post by: sameer7777 on September 17, 2012, 04:05:04 AM
My 1st day I am completely change person ready to fight
Could not sleep whole night
Body headache pain
I can't write more
Pls need any inputs !!!!
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 17, 2012, 06:16:59 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them

Odd, if I took all that I'd feel wired :)
I suspect the taurine is the only thing stopping you from feeling very jittery. How much of that are you taking?

Also, do you drink tea? I'm wondering whether decaffeinated green tea extract which contains catechins and theanine might be a good way to improve dopamine to norepinephrine balance. Caffeine would be a bad idea. The cure for feeling anxious isn't to drink more caffeinated beverages, even if some have added carnitine, taurine and even theanine to give more focus than jitter. 

Reducing the chemical markers of anxiety and stress seem to be key. It's working for me anyway.
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 17, 2012, 01:46:10 PM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them

Odd, if I took all that I'd feel wired :)
I suspect the taurine is the only thing stopping you from feeling very jittery. How much of that are you taking?

Also, do you drink tea? I'm wondering whether decaffeinated green tea extract which contains catechins and theanine might be a good way to improve dopamine to norepinephrine balance. Caffeine would be a bad idea. The cure for feeling anxious isn't to drink more caffeinated beverages, even if some have added carnitine, taurine and even theanine to give more focus than jitter. 

Reducing the chemical markers of anxiety and stress seem to be key. It's working for me anyway.

i'm taking 500mg taurine + 500mg of l-tyrosine + a cuarter of one hidroxil pill (an entire one makes me feel too tired) + some dark chocolate.
i've not tried decaffeinated green tea but I will do soon and let you know.
i'm taking all this stuff because my libido is zero. i have also to say that at the moment i am pois free only when i use niacin
thank you very much
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 18, 2012, 03:40:08 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them

Odd, if I took all that I'd feel wired :)
I suspect the taurine is the only thing stopping you from feeling very jittery. How much of that are you taking?

Also, do you drink tea? I'm wondering whether decaffeinated green tea extract which contains catechins and theanine might be a good way to improve dopamine to norepinephrine balance. Caffeine would be a bad idea. The cure for feeling anxious isn't to drink more caffeinated beverages, even if some have added carnitine, taurine and even theanine to give more focus than jitter. 

Reducing the chemical markers of anxiety and stress seem to be key. It's working for me anyway.

i'm taking 500mg taurine + 500mg of l-tyrosine + a cuarter of one hidroxil pill (an entire one makes me feel too tired) + some dark chocolate.
i've not tried decaffeinated green tea but I will do soon and let you know.
i'm taking all this stuff because my libido is zero. i have also to say that at the moment i am pois free only when i use niacin
thank you very much


You want to increase your libido?
I don't have any libido problems. Actually, less inclination to O may be a positive thing for me :)
Have you had your hormone levels checked?
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 18, 2012, 06:28:27 AM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them

Odd, if I took all that I'd feel wired :)
I suspect the taurine is the only thing stopping you from feeling very jittery. How much of that are you taking?

Also, do you drink tea? I'm wondering whether decaffeinated green tea extract which contains catechins and theanine might be a good way to improve dopamine to norepinephrine balance. Caffeine would be a bad idea. The cure for feeling anxious isn't to drink more caffeinated beverages, even if some have added carnitine, taurine and even theanine to give more focus than jitter. 

Reducing the chemical markers of anxiety and stress seem to be key. It's working for me anyway.

i'm taking 500mg taurine + 500mg of l-tyrosine + a cuarter of one hidroxil pill (an entire one makes me feel too tired) + some dark chocolate.
i've not tried decaffeinated green tea but I will do soon and let you know.
i'm taking all this stuff because my libido is zero. i have also to say that at the moment i am pois free only when i use niacin
thank you very much


You want to increase your libido?
I don't have any libido problems. Actually, less inclination to O may be a positive thing for me :)
Have you had your hormone levels checked?

yes, only prolactine was a bit high, but my doctor told me it was normal, given that the night before the blood test i couldn't sleep very well, so she told me it was high likely because of that
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 18, 2012, 01:45:53 PM

Dark chocolate always gave me a mental boost and I think it's because it's high in phenylethylamine (also known as PEA). It also has natural cannibanoids which help you relax. Chocolate gives a quick and short-lived boost as the substance quickly increases dopamine but PEA is also quickly broken down by an enzyme (MAO-B). If it wasn't, chocolate would make people high.


i am taking daily around 10g of dark chocolate, with l-tyrosine, b vitamins and taurine in order to increase the dopamine levels. do you think it is a good mix?

I think that's a lot of things that increase dopamine. How do you feel?

i don't feel any change but it' only one week i'm taking them

Odd, if I took all that I'd feel wired :)
I suspect the taurine is the only thing stopping you from feeling very jittery. How much of that are you taking?

Also, do you drink tea? I'm wondering whether decaffeinated green tea extract which contains catechins and theanine might be a good way to improve dopamine to norepinephrine balance. Caffeine would be a bad idea. The cure for feeling anxious isn't to drink more caffeinated beverages, even if some have added carnitine, taurine and even theanine to give more focus than jitter. 

Reducing the chemical markers of anxiety and stress seem to be key. It's working for me anyway.

i'm taking 500mg taurine + 500mg of l-tyrosine + a cuarter of one hidroxil pill (an entire one makes me feel too tired) + some dark chocolate.
i've not tried decaffeinated green tea but I will do soon and let you know.
i'm taking all this stuff because my libido is zero. i have also to say that at the moment i am pois free only when i use niacin
thank you very much


You want to increase your libido?
I don't have any libido problems. Actually, less inclination to O may be a positive thing for me :)
Have you had your hormone levels checked?

yes, only prolactine was a bit high, but my doctor told me it was normal, given that the night before the blood test i couldn't sleep very well, so she told me it was high likely because of that

That's odd. I thought prolactin levels were lower after poor sleep.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/prolactin-15129?page=3
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 18, 2012, 05:25:54 PM
you are right.
i think i will take he test again and discuss the results with more than one doctor.
thank you for your reply
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: kurtosis on September 19, 2012, 04:13:28 AM
you are right.
i think i will take he test again and discuss the results with more than one doctor.
thank you for your reply

It never hurts to get a second opinion.
Let me put it to you this way. If your prolactin levels are lowered by bad sleep and they were a bit high (but still in range) then perhaps they're higher still normally. That appears plausible.

I spoke to a nurse about POIS a while back. She works with a small charitable organisation in my country that helps people with another rare disease that I thought it might be possible was similar to POIS and wanted to find out more. She said.
Quote
"If what your doctor says doesn't make sense to you then question them on it. Don't be afraid to change doctors.. Don't tell a doctor what they want to hear just because they're not listening to you or don't believe your symptoms and, most importantly, don't let anybody tell you it's all in your head".
The last bit resonated with me.
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: haidcat on September 19, 2012, 12:52:01 PM
Sameer look up reactive hypoglycemia and post prandial hypotension
Title: Re: I took kit kat and I got block nostrils stiff head and everything Etc ...why ???
Post by: poisioq on September 19, 2012, 01:43:08 PM
you are right.
i think i will take he test again and discuss the results with more than one doctor.
thank you for your reply

It never hurts to get a second opinion.
Let me put it to you this way. If your prolactin levels are lowered by bad sleep and they were a bit high (but still in range) then perhaps they're higher still normally. That appears plausible.

I spoke to a nurse about POIS a while back. She works with a small charitable organisation in my country that helps people with another rare disease that I thought it might be possible was similar to POIS and wanted to find out more. She said.
Quote
"If what your doctor says doesn't make sense to you then question them on it. Don't be afraid to change doctors.. Don't tell a doctor what they want to hear just because they're not listening to you or don't believe your symptoms and, most importantly, don't let anybody tell you it's all in your head".
The last bit resonated with me.

it do resonates with me too  :)