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POIS Cause/Treatment Discussions => General Alternative Causes and Treatments of POIS => Topic started by: Ahmad moner on December 15, 2020, 08:45:30 PM
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Hi 🙋♂️
I?m ahmad I?m 33years old i was suffering from pois since 17years old, i was feeling so bad 3to5 days hard symptoms then i gradually recover, I tried so much ways to recover but no work, Recently i tried ketogenic diet and i felt so much better but when i eat dairy and cheese I felt bad again so i stop them and i continue the ketogenic diet and its work so good.
I share my experience may It work with others
If any body had experimented keto please share it here
This channel explains all about this diet
https://youtube.com/c/DrEricBergDC
Thank you
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Hi 🙋♂️
I?m ahmad I?m 33years old i was suffering from pois since 17years old, i was feeling so bad 3to5 days hard symptoms then i gradually recover, I tried so much ways to recover but no work, Recently i tried ketogenic diet and i felt so much better but when i eat dairy and cheese I felt bad again so i stop them and i continue the ketogenic diet and its work so good.
I share my experience may It work with others
If any body had experimented keto please share it here
This channel explains all about this diet
https://youtube.com/c/DrEricBergDC
Thank you
In addition to the diet, I practice intermittent fasting and some exercise
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Thanks for reporting. I will add it here: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3551.0
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Hi 🙋♂️
I?m ahmad I?m 33years old i was suffering from pois since 17years old, i was feeling so bad 3to5 days hard symptoms then i gradually recover, I tried so much ways to recover but no work, Recently i tried ketogenic diet and i felt so much better but when i eat dairy and cheese I felt bad again so i stop them and i continue the ketogenic diet and its work so good.
I share my experience may It work with others
If any body had experimented keto please share it here
This channel explains all about this diet
https://youtube.com/c/DrEricBergDC
Thank you
Hi Ahmad, i hope this post will help you.
I am on keto diet, dairy is also keto diet. I tried every single diet and nothing helped me regarding POIS, i'm on a keto now because of good health, trying to avoid atherosclerosis and blood cloths, keto has huge range of benefits, carbs simply sucks no matter POIS . Anyway, not one diet helped me to feel better regarding POIS because i have fatty liver, my liver could not process all that food, fat, proteins and carbs, i was food intolerant, i could not eat mayonnaise, onion, vinegar, butter, fructose, sugar, soda, bacon, McDonalds. Before when i eat Nutella and burgers from McDonalds (palm oil/fat), after 3-4 hours i did get restless legs syndrome, annoying shit lasting 3-4 hours.
Foods high in fat and fructose/sugar/starch was no no for me, after half an hour of consuming that food i was having anxiety, i was irritable, aggressive, had derealization and so on, living hell, i spent 2000 euros on supplements, tons of vitamins and examinations/blood tests by a doctors in 3 years of suffering, and all that lead me to finally found root of my problem, it was liver, liver could not absorb vitamins so that's why vitamin supplements did not work.
I have psoriasis and nail psoriasis due to malabsorption of vitamins and minerals. Fatty liver can not detox from toxins properly and can not absorb fat in liver, also not producing enough bile to digest fat, without bile there is no absorption of fat soluble vitamins, bile is like detergent, it cleans fat from colon, if the colon have fat mucus that can also block absorption of vitamins and minerals, (also not doing enemas anymore because liver supplements helps). Bile regulates good/bad bacteria, it prevents SIBO, if the colon has bad bacteria i get POIS due to undigested food get to colon and bad bacteria making gasses like methane and hydrogen sulfide, which is getting to blood and into brain and then i get POIS symptoms.
After silymarin and artichoke (liver supplement) i feel 90% better and now i can eat everything, eating everything i mentioned up without any problems or restless legs syndrome, today i was eating salad with vinegar, sour cream and Nutella for test and not one problem, i can eat cheese, butter, all dairy products. I can have orgasms almost every day, but not forcing it every day. One important thing that i did not fart much before, and now i do, so probably those gasses are getting eliminated trough fart due to lack of bad bacteria. I was eating like 10-40 Betain hcl with pepsin pills everyday for stronger stomach acid, not anymore. Not cured yet 100% but i'm on a right track, anyway get tested for fatty liver, and try with liver supplements, i'm sure it will help. I'm taking 300 mg syllimarin and 200 mg artichoke in the morning and 300/200 mg afternoon, sometimes even before lunch high in fat. In a 2-3 days of consuming that i got better.
I love Dr. Berg :). Also see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cqJMFN7ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h64_7DYf5_0&t=3s
https://hackyourgut.com/2016/11/03/10-reasons-why-people-with-sibo-should-care-about-bile/
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Interesting. I've tried keto, IF, experimented with cutting out dairy, etc - modest improvements, but nothing huge. I've taken milk thistle, but not combined with artichoke in those dosages - maybe worth trying?
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Hi Igy78
Silimarin and artichoke before food or after food. Can it be had with every meals or only once a day?
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Interesting. I've tried keto, IF, experimented with cutting out dairy, etc - modest improvements, but nothing huge. I've taken milk thistle, but not combined with artichoke in those dosages - maybe worth trying?
I also took milk thistle, but one pill a day, everything i took against POIS was low dosage, and i did not feel any progress. Now i bombarded liver with silimarin and artichoke and stuff works at least in my case, one guy on youtube saying that Dandelion helped him, Dandelion did not help me much immediately like sylimarin and artichoke. But sure it's good for liver. Artichoke and syllimarine clears my brain from brain fog in about one hour. It speeds up liver to detox bad stuff from blood i guess.
I am using this.
https://www.dietpharm.com/en/proizvodi/silimarin-articoka-kapsule/
2 pills in the morning, 2 afternoon and sometimes at lunch.
Definitely try everything that could help your liver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h64_7DYf5_0&t=3s
Maybe you find something that helps.
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Hi Igy78
Silimarin and artichoke before food or after food. Can it be had with every meals or only once a day?
I'm taking in the morning, afternoon and sometimes with food high in fat. But you can not make a mistake taking even higher dosage to speed up liver even more. Try everything you can for liver that Nature has provided to us. I'm not taking any drugs from pharmacies.
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Hi Ahmad, i hope this post will help you.
I am on keto diet, dairy is also keto diet. I tried every single diet and nothing helped me regarding POIS, i'm on a keto now because of good health, trying to avoid atherosclerosis and blood cloths, keto has huge range of benefits, carbs simply sucks no matter POIS . Anyway, not one diet helped me to feel better regarding POIS because i have fatty liver, my liver could not process all that food, fat, proteins and carbs, i was food intolerant, i could not eat mayonnaise, onion, vinegar, butter, fructose, sugar, soda, bacon, McDonalds. Before when i eat Nutella and burgers from McDonalds (palm oil/fat), after 3-4 hours i did get restless legs syndrome, annoying shit lasting 3-4 hours.
Foods high in fat and fructose/sugar/starch was no no for me, after half an hour of consuming that food i was having anxiety, i was irritable, aggressive, had derealization and so on, living hell, i spent 2000 euros on supplements, tons of vitamins and examinations/blood tests by a doctors in 3 years of suffering, and all that lead me to finally found root of my problem, it was liver, liver could not absorb vitamins so that's why vitamin supplements did not work.
I have psoriasis and nail psoriasis due to malabsorption of vitamins and minerals. Fatty liver can not detox from toxins properly and can not absorb fat in liver, also not producing enough bile to digest fat, without bile there is no absorption of fat soluble vitamins, bile is like detergent, it cleans fat from colon, if the colon have fat mucus that can also block absorption of vitamins and minerals, (also not doing enemas anymore because liver supplements helps). Bile regulates good/bad bacteria, it prevents SIBO, if the colon has bad bacteria i get POIS due to undigested food get to colon and bad bacteria making gasses like methane and hydrogen sulfide, which is getting to blood and into brain and then i get POIS symptoms.
After silymarin and artichoke (liver supplement) i feel 90% better and now i can eat everything, eating everything i mentioned up without any problems or restless legs syndrome, today i was eating salad with vinegar, sour cream and Nutella for test and not one problem, i can eat cheese, butter, all dairy products. I can have orgasms almost every day, but not forcing it every day. One important thing that i did not fart much before, and now i do, so probably those gasses are getting eliminated trough fart due to lack of bad bacteria. I was eating like 10-40 Betain hcl with pepsin pills everyday for stronger stomach acid, not anymore. Not cured yet 100% but i'm on a right track, anyway get tested for fatty liver, and try with liver supplements, i'm sure it will help. I'm taking 300 mg syllimarin and 200 mg artichoke in the morning and 300/200 mg afternoon, sometimes even before lunch high in fat. In a 2-3 days of consuming that i got better.
I love Dr. Berg :). Also see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cqJMFN7ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h64_7DYf5_0&t=3s
https://hackyourgut.com/2016/11/03/10-reasons-why-people-with-sibo-should-care-about-bile/
Thank you Igy78 for your advice.
I think i am not have Fatty liver because I am not fat and not suffering any fatty liver symptoms, but your experience is interesting i think I should do test for my liver to be sure liver is ok.
Thank you again hope you healing 100%
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Thanks for reporting. I will add it here: https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=3551.0
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Nice to hear stuff like this.
To odher mebers, take care about keto and carniovare diets,
this is not for ewryone,
some peoples can get sick from diet like this.
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I have psoriasis and nail psoriasis due to malabsorption of vitamins and minerals.
Psoriasis is a Th1 dominant condition. Body could be fighting pathogens-->Th1^-->psoriasis.
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HNMT is a key enzyme concentrated in the liver which is responsible for degrading histamines generated as a result of the functions of the body and in particular mast-cells. The liver filters the blood to remove fat-soluble toxins, then disassembles those toxins into water soluble toxins, ready for excretion.
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A review on preventive role of ketogenic diet (KD) in CNS disorders from the gut microbiota perspective (https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/revneuro/ahead-of-print/article-10.1515-revneuro-2020-0078/article-10.1515-revneuro-2020-0078.xml)
"This review helps to uncover the mechanisms that are utilized by the KD and gut microbiota to modulate gut–brain axis functions and may provide novel opportunities to target therapies to the gut to treat neurologic disorders."
Table 3. Main findings related to the effect of ketogenic diet (KD) on gut microbiota:
The Impact of Low-FODMAPs, Gluten-Free, and Ketogenic Diets on Gut Microbiota Modulation in Pathological Conditions (https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/11/2/373/htm)
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Hi Igy78
Silimarin and artichoke before food or after food. Can it be had with every meals or only once a day?
I'm taking in the morning, afternoon and sometimes with food high in fat. But you can not make a mistake taking even higher dosage to speed up liver even more. Try everything you can for liver that Nature has provided to us. I'm not taking any drugs from pharmacies.
so, it's important, can you answer, please, when, exatly, do take artishoke and silymarin? Are you taking it at the morning before breakfast, during or after? If you take it before or after - could you please write the gap between taking pills and eating? What about afternoon?
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Thanks Ahmad and Igy, for sharing your good results with a healthier diet.
My experience is that when my liver is in better shape, my health is way better, and POIS is less severe as well.
I had posted lots of info on how to detox the liver, at https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2431.msg20521#msg20521 (https://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2431.msg20521#msg20521)
I am not on a keto diet, but years ago, I have stopped all refined sugars, and even fruit juices. I do eat whole fruit, and incorporate them in my green smoothies as well, and those low levels of sugar do not trigger inflammation and dis-ease in me. I have been making myself green smoothies for 4 years now, and if I take too much time to make them again when I am out of it, and do not eat any for 4 to 5 days, my energy level really drops, and my body feels heavy, really heavy.
Also, I eat small quantities at a time, but more often, rather than large meal. This too, helps my liver. Overall, I eat much less than before, and have kept the same body weight. A sure proof for me that the Occidental diet is an over-eating diet. So no surprised all this obesity, and all those illness linked to a bad diet.
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Keto diet is good, but what was shown in various researches to be able to cure or make less severe various health ishues(cancers, autoimmune diseases, hormonal disorders, diabetes, anxiety, inflammation problems like allergies, etc)
Was less so Keto by itself, but intermittent fasting combined with Keto diet. Durring Keto main source of energy is stored fat, ao I guess makes longer fasting possible, since your body doesn?t really on carbohydrate intake.
Here is some explanation
https://youtu.be/96dv7Xrgksw
https://youtu.be/Uv-N4X4tIy0
https://youtu.be/vhmtoAYVRSo
https://youtu.be/NuGefQV1Nxk
I haven?t tried Keto nor fasting to share my experiences sadly.
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About positive effects of both Keto and fasting
https://youtu.be/zzwxj9xJjao
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@Ahmad Moner
Do you have premature ejaculation. If so, did the ketodiet have any effect on your PE?