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General Category => Poll Center => Topic started by: Muon on November 17, 2019, 03:51:22 PM

Title: Testosterone
Post by: Muon on November 17, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Testosterone Poll, about the minimum values.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: demografx on November 17, 2019, 06:39:50 PM
Sorry, but I’d have to find my 2008 records!
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: joelawerence on December 02, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: Muon on December 02, 2019, 09:32:42 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: demografx on December 02, 2019, 05:51:18 PM
Free-T has been cited frequently here as far more important than total-T
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: certainlypois2 on December 02, 2019, 06:51:31 PM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: Muon on December 03, 2019, 09:21:56 AM
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated? These could fluctuate throughout the day and people could have done multiple tests. What do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T based on the lowest level?
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: demografx on December 03, 2019, 03:07:46 PM
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated?
No.

...do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T?
Yes.

Sorry this was directed at cp2, but it’s a subject near and dear!
cp2, please respond if u wish!

Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: certainlypois2 on December 03, 2019, 05:50:06 PM
A poll for free testosterone will be nice. The two levels are not necessarily proportional.
I haven't looked into free T. Aren't they correlated? These could fluctuate throughout the day and people could have done multiple tests. What do you suggest that I should set up a similar poll for free T based on the lowest level?

I was basing the answer on my anecdotal experience but it looks like Harvard health is saying both should be tested because  SHBG levels affect level of free testosterone.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/testing-your-testosterone-its-tricky.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: demografx on December 03, 2019, 06:12:38 PM
certainlypois2, excellent article!
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: demografx on December 03, 2019, 08:31:22 PM
Muon, my pre-edit “!”s above were not angry, just....POISed :) :)
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: joelawerence on December 10, 2019, 05:09:28 AM
The scales used in UK are different. The lowest I was measured was 3.0 when the minimum one should have was 7.8. Now I am measuring slightly over 8, so just about low end of Normal.
What units did they use? And was it total or free testosterone. The poll is based on total testosterone. Perhaps I should make another poll for free levels or a combination.

It is Total Testosterone. Extract from the link below: "A fairly wide level of total testosterone in males is considered normal (9-32 mmol/l which is equivalent to about 270-1,000 ng/dl), but many men do complain of symptoms of low testosterone at the low end of this normal range. For example, a 45-year-old man with 10 mmol/l total testosterone may be unhappy at that level."

https://www.pharmacy2u.co.uk/onlinedoctor/testosterone.html

So, my lowest testosterone level at 3 was way low than the lowest normal of 9 mmol / 270 ng/dl.

Now due to exercising and abstaining from masturbation I have levels in the low end of normal around 10.
Title: Re: Poll: Testosterone
Post by: Muon on December 10, 2019, 07:37:13 AM
If it's 3 and it's below the lower limit plus it represents total testosterone then unit prefix is nano (n) and not milli (m) as in nmol/L instead of mmol/L.

To convert total testosterone from ng/dL to nmol/L (SI units), multiply the value in ng/dL by 0.0347; to convert free testosterone from pg/mL to pmol/L (SI units), multiply the value in pg/mL by 3.47. You will have to divide by this number if you are going the other direction of conversion.

Converter: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

So your lowest level was 86.5 ng/dL