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sorry for generating the explanation by gemini 2.5 pro, since i'm working on my final-exam with little time to write by myself on this forum. although it's produced by ai, but the feeling of myself makes myself very convinced about it. It give a quite scientific explaination rather than the FODMAP one, for FODMAP can't directly cause allergic. I believe the key point is that the Lergigan is a gen1 for anti-H1, so that it can effect the brain.

sorry for my poor english. If it wiil helps you, i'll be glad.
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Hi everyone,

I've seen the report of finding significant relief from POIS symptoms using Lergigan, which is a brand name for promethazine. Promethazine is a first-generation H1 antihistamine, and its properties offer several interesting avenues for how it *might* alleviate POIS. Let's dive into the science:

1.  POTENT H1 HISTAMINE BLOCKADE

    -   The Theory: A leading theory for POIS involves an autoimmune or allergic-like reaction, possibly to semen components or to substances released during/after orgasm. This reaction could trigger a significant release of histamine from mast cells and other immune cells.
    -   How Lergigan Might Help: Histamine binding to H1 receptors causes many classic allergy symptoms: vasodilation (leading to redness, swelling, nasal congestion), increased vascular permeability (fluid leakage), itching, and bronchoconstriction. By strongly blocking H1 receptors, Lergigan could directly reduce these histamine-mediated symptoms if they are a core component of an individual's POIS (e.g., flu-like symptoms, brain fog due to neuroinflammation, skin reactions).
    -   Mast Cell Stabilization (Indirect): While not a primary mast cell stabilizer, reducing the downstream effects of histamine can lessen the overall inflammatory cascade that might be triggered by mast cell degranulation post-orgasm.

2.  SIGNIFICANT ANTICHOLINERGIC EFFECTS

    -   The Theory: The autonomic nervous system (ANS) is heavily involved in sexual response and orgasm. An imbalance, particularly an overactive parasympathetic (cholinergic) system post-orgasm, or a dysregulation between sympathetic and parasympathetic activity, could contribute to POIS symptoms like fatigue, cognitive issues, or gastrointestinal upset.
    -   How Lergigan Might Help: First-generation antihistamines like promethazine are known for their anticholinergic (muscarinic receptor antagonist) properties. By blocking acetylcholine, Lergigan could:
        -   Reduce certain parasympathetic activities that might be in overdrive.
        -   Potentially alleviate symptoms like excessive secretions, some types of muscle discomfort, or even some cognitive effects if cholinergic pathways in the brain are involved.
        -   Contribute to its sedative effect (see below).

3.  CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM (CNS) PENETRATION & SEDATION

    -   The Theory: Many POIS symptoms include profound fatigue, brain fog, and mood disturbances. Sleep disruption can also exacerbate POIS.
    -   How Lergigan Might Help: Unlike second-generation antihistamines, first-generation ones like Lergigan readily cross the blood-brain barrier.
        -   Sedation: Its H1 antagonism and anticholinergic effects in the CNS lead to drowsiness and sedation. This could:
            -   Directly alleviate feelings of agitation or anxiety.
            -   Improve sleep quality if taken before bed, allowing the body more restorative time.
            -   Simply "dampen" the perception of other uncomfortable symptoms.
        -   Neurotransmitter Modulation: Histamine and acetylcholine are also neurotransmitters in the brain involved in wakefulness, learning, and memory. Altering their balance could shift the neurochemical environment in a way that alleviates certain POIS symptoms, though the exact mechanisms here are complex and speculative for POIS.

4.  ANTI-EMETIC PROPERTIES (Antidopaminergic & Anticholinergic)

    -   The Theory: While nausea isn't a universal POIS symptom, some individuals might experience it.
    -   How Lergigan Might Help: Promethazine has anti-emetic effects, partly through blocking dopamine D2 receptors in the brain, as well as its anticholinergic actions. If nausea or general malaise is part of someone's POIS, this could offer relief.

WHY FIRST-GENERATION MATTERS HERE:

It's crucial to note that the anticholinergic and sedative properties are much more pronounced in first-generation antihistamines because they cross the blood-brain barrier effectively. Second-generation antihistamines are designed to minimize these CNS effects. So, if Lergigan is working, it's likely due to this broader spectrum of activity, not *just* peripheral histamine blockade.

IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS:

    -   Individual Variability: POIS is heterogeneous. This mechanism might only apply to a subset of sufferers.
    -   Side Effects: First-generation antihistamines have notable side effects: drowsiness, dry mouth, blurred vision, constipation, urinary retention, cognitive impairment (especially with long-term use or in the elderly). These must be weighed against potential benefits.
    -   Not a "Cure" but Symptom Management: This approach likely manages symptoms rather than addressing the absolute root cause (which is still unknown).
    -   Consult a Doctor: This is not medical advice. Anyone considering Lergigan or any medication for POIS should discuss it thoroughly with a knowledgeable physician.

CONCLUSION:

The success of Lergigan for a POIS sufferer could be due to a combination of its potent H1 antihistaminic, anticholinergic, and sedative effects, potentially addressing inflammatory, autonomic, and CNS-related aspects of the syndrome. It highlights the possibility that for some, POIS may have a significant neuro-immuno-inflammatory component that can be modulated by older, broader-acting drugs.

Would love to hear others' thoughts or experiences!
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Keto is my new diet. Haven’t been on any electrolyte supplementation for at least a month or so now. Pretty cool to see my body appears to have become quite adapted.

Ever since I became fat adapted, my body no longer thrives on fruit as an exclusive carbohydrate source. My body does not do well rapidly switching between glucose and fat without tanking my mood.

I would still prefer to eat carbs as a dominant energy source but unfortunately food sensitivities make that an impossibility. But hopefully these sensitivities will improve with some of the things I’m working on.

Eating lots more veggies and spices than ever, which is nice.

D3 lamp is also working smoothly.

Still on daily alcohol tincture herbs as well, as custom done by herbalist.
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Title: Could POIS Cognitive Symptoms Indicate Extreme Fatigue? A Neurophysiological Perspective

Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) presents a complex set of cognitive symptoms, including brain fog, difficulty concentrating, and mental exhaustion. One possible explanation is that these symptoms may be linked to extreme fatigue, resulting from an adrenergic surge related to the sympathetic component of ejaculation.

The sympathetic nervous system plays a crucial role in the ejaculation process, triggering a release of adrenaline and norepinephrine. This surge could induce a state of temporary hyperactivation followed by a rapid decline in physiological energy, leading to exhaustion. The adrenal system's overstimulation could result in post-orgasmic fatigue resembling adrenal insufficiency, affecting cognitive clarity, memory, and executive function.

Moreover, chronic adrenergic activation can disrupt neurotransmitter balance, particularly dopamine and serotonin, which are essential for mental acuity and emotional stability. The depletion of these neurotransmitters may explain the prolonged cognitive dysfunction that many POIS sufferers experience.

Understanding POIS from a neurophysiological perspective could help develop targeted interventions, such as stabilizing autonomic function and regulating post-ejaculatory adrenergic responses. Further research is needed to explore this hypothesis and its potential implications for treatment strategies. ?What do you think about it? I have chronic fatigue syndrome, and all the things that diminished fatigue improve the symptoms, every single substance or stimuli. I would like to know your opinion about what would be the physiological explanation of mental fatigue in this case. Even things like Codeine, that inhibit the feeling of fatigue, used in war on africa as a tool to increase stamina, works.
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POIS Research / Re: 2025 POIS SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH STUDY
« Last post by demografx on May 19, 2025, 01:07:17 PM »

Dr. Nicole Prause
POIS Science
Investigator


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2025 POIS STUDY VIDEO
Our 1st POIS Scientific
Subject Data in Database!

https://tinyurl.com/4azpx4fw
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POIS Research / Re: 2025 POIS SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH STUDY
« Last post by demografx on May 19, 2025, 01:02:03 PM »

This sounds very encouraging. Please keep us updated about the public recruitment process.


Thank you, carlo_francesco

We will be posting recruitment ads here at the forum!
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POIS Research / Re: 2025 POIS SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH STUDY
« Last post by carlo_francesco on May 19, 2025, 03:30:59 AM »
This sounds very encouraging. Please keep us updated about the public recruitment process.
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POIS Research / Re: Great News - POIS Lab is Almost Ready for the Study !
« Last post by demografx on May 18, 2025, 06:46:52 PM »

I suggest that an eeg be conducted and recorded during the sexual act, the orgasm, and an repeatedly during pois days and then eegs should be compared between controls and poisers


The POIS Science team is actually getting almost every single thing you listed (not over multiple days).

What else is the study testing? Please in details
When will it begin ?

The POIS Study has already begun:
https://tinyurl.com/4azpx4fw

Your question as to what the study is testing:
https://tinyurl.com/5pjvsubj
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POIS Research / Re: Great News - POIS Lab is Almost Ready for the Study !
« Last post by Egyptian ahmad on May 18, 2025, 05:44:14 PM »

I suggest that an eeg be conducted and recorded during the sexual act, the orgasm, and an repeatedly during pois days and then eegs should be compared between controls and poisers


The POIS Science team is actually getting almost every single thing you listed (not over multiple days).

What else is the study testing? Please in details
When will it begin ?
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Great Observation. I have the same feeling. Although I don't have exact data, in my memory, I don't dream after sleeping after O. (Dreaming occurs during REM phase).
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