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Re: My own experience
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2012, 03:01:08 PM »
Great anon80. Welcome. Sure hope we can help.

Although we haven't found a cure, we get closer day by day. We have begun a program to do some real medical research through NORD, the National Organization for Rare Disorders.

We have two main treatments that help greatly, but not for everyone. I myself consider myself practically POIS free now with niacin. You can see lots of stuff about that in the Xanthiol Nicotinate thread. Xanthiol Nicotinate is an injectable and enhanced form of niacin, but we have since found that niacin by itself is just as effective, doesn't require injection and much more available.

Our co-moderator Demografx has very good success with testosterone. It's a little more difficult to get perscriptions for "T", and there are certain precautions that need taking, it's not for everyone, but both of these methods provide more insite into what POIS is, and may eventually lead to an ultimate cure.

You'll see lots of other stuff here as well so dig in. Feel free to tell your story, share your ideas and become part of the group.

WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2012, 10:36:18 PM »
Thanks for the info!

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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2012, 02:03:14 AM »
Introduction :
I'm a 33 old year male from France, caucasian.
I started masturbation at 14 years (1 a day at least). My symptoms started before 15 years but not after each orgasm, mainly cogntive. At 16, I get the symptoms after each orgasm and I get some flu-like symptoms (mainly warmth, knee pains/joint pains years later)
Now my orgasm frequency is once a week.

Symptoms :
Before 2008 : 3 or 4 days after ejaculation.
In 2008 year, a french friend give me an important advice. I stopped to eat sugar and I reduce bad carbohydrates. I try to eat more healthy and to avoid glucose spikes.
It make a HUGE difference in my Pois. 4 years later I can conform it was the most important thing in my Pois by far. No placebo effect.
I had especially strong typical diarrheas 3 or 4 hours AFTER each ejaculation during 15 years. Now, this symptoms is 100% by diet. Out-of-pois, sugar give me normal diarrheas and hypoglycemia. The diet improved these symptoms by 90-95%.
Day 2 is the worst.

After 2008 :
10 minutes after ejaculation, I feel cold and I'm sensible to cold. I really think orgasm cause something linked to bloodvessels.
After 3-4 hours and especially 30 minutes after the meal : I feel a warmth. I feel a  fever state. This flu-like symptoms is very dependent of diet. Junk food and carbohydrates have an huge influence of this symptoms.
During the next hours, my cognition is bad. I can't concentrate. I feel like sleeping. I feel tired and I have poor general energy.
Stress has an huge influence on my Pois.


Supplments/meds :
Diet is the only thing that improved my Pois.

Possible help : niacin, magnesium, salmon.

No help with :
Ibuprofen/Aspirin, St-John's Wort, L-Glutamine, L-Arginine, Carnitine, Multi-Enzymes, Bromelain, Fenugreek, Harpogophytum, Coco Oil, High dose of vitamin B5, multi vitamins, omega-3 oils, curcuma/garlic...

Need to test :
Anti-histamine, Testosterone.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 02:16:02 AM by b_jim »
Taurine = Anti-Pois

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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 03:00:20 AM »
Hello everyone. I knew  about POIS and about this forum for the first time past Friday, reading an article in a spanish paper. Has been a great discovery for me, thanks a lot for this you have built. Also I don?t want to forget to thank "Observer" his welcome  ;)
 
I?m 40 years old. I feel bad after an "O" too:
My level of energy drops. Memory and mental agility decrease. I loose flexibility in my body, I feel heavy. Sometimes I get headache. Intense light disturbes me. Suddenly I feel thirsty and specially need to relieve a "dry point" that appears in my throat. Just one minute after the ejaculation that point in my throat appears and asks to be sated urgently with a lot of water. If I don?t, I feel drowning.
Also I feel more irascible and negative thoughts arise in my mind. In general I feel empty, I feel less live.
 
Those symptoms last for hours. Twentyfour hours later I feel good again. If I wait for 48, much better.
Usually I have arround six "O"?s a week. Sometimes more. If I have 2 in a day I?m in the hole during 3 days.
I have read some post in the forum and I?ve seen people with more severe and lasting symptoms. In fact what it happens to me I don?t consider it as an illnes. I think it?s normal, I?ll try to explain my point of view:
I don?t feel as an ill, I feel like a junkie. I?m addict to a drug named sex. You don?t need a dealer to get it, your body generates it naturally, but the behavior of this natural drug is exactly the same to any illegal drug. As any illegal drug it gives to you a while of pleasure, but later you have to pay a price for those moments of pleasure. Price to pay is a kind of hangover more or less intense and lasting. For me, that "hangover" is manifested throght the symptoms I described above.

For now is all, friends. Later I?ll share with you other thoughts and experiences I have about POIS

Regards

 

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 09:02:02 AM »
                              Dear fellow  'lads'with P.O.I.S.

Hello dear  pois community


 Like to introduce myself here as new 'Dutch languaged' member. Did only read a view posts since 2006, but will be here now on weekly basis. Like to help document p.o.i.s treatment, monitor the psychological aspects of integrating the syndrome in social live, sharing insight in progress as well  back-fall. Radiate a critical eye over my own process as well the opinion of others that will ask or tell here whatever comes up.

My P.o.i.s.  was Official diagnosed in 2004 by its 'inventor' prof M. Waldinger. I am one of the about 40  patients that is described in  Waldingers article in 2011, that undergo the subcutaneous test. [to test/prove if its an allergy or just a newage neurosis ;) ] If you are new to the allergy hypothesis  [which I still approve,but*....], see also his article written  2011  in witch he describer 2 patients  who go successfully a desensitization therapy http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_smile_shy.giftp://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/009262302760328280

I did undergo the desentization also, and am  almost at the end of it ....[and with it ;>) ]

Treated with dedesentization, partially progressed but still in  therapy. My therapy takes now about 4 years. Not finished yet. Later on I will describe the effects of the therapy and its side effects during time between the injections. Content with actual state of progress? Sorry, NO**. Of course  much lesser days sick and lesser outlaw of society but still 1 or 2 days  frustratingly under influence of  cognition symptoms and therefore  wiser  hiding for certain social contacts those days. The progress is also waving***

The treatment policy was to keep treatment quiet for the world until first results were published.  Also the goal was not to interfere with other treatments, to keep results objective. Now the end of desensitization cums near [I went from 1 to 40.000 tot 1 to 3], I like to consider adding some help of complementary therapy. Of course I cannot read backwards all 367 posts here before I say /ask needless things, but I hope not to miss alternative healing methods or  tips to help my body accept his own sperm. Need your help to inform me postpone what i can do.

you know already (see my post on naked scientist 24/6/2012) my sidekick  to progesteron became a disappointment .postpone addition:I just removed my former post in which I described the exerience , it would be to much for you to read, wil add an other day....... Whether 2x 5 mg was to less to work, or even enough to interfere negative if of later discussion, If  the skin itches so badly for 3 days it worked in any case!! ...my advise keep your hands of it till all  experienced are bundled here later.   I did read here before already  and in Wiki that a patient was cured!?? with progesteron supletion. Others on pois fora about 6 ? do experiments with it. At the moment i dont have info how the patients react on the progesterone. My first opinion is that the claims are dangerously vague and paradox. but have to read everything over again to 'shoot on it' successfully.

Have no clue if there are complimentary treatment methods. At the moment I get vitamin D supletion, since that is done for now on for all sufferers of all kinds of allergies. My specialist   will monitor progress with  the already started vit D supletion.


My allergist  ( keep him anonymous), tested hormones etc
for further future use/research
Vit D [normal nmol/l >50] ?........= 25.6. wich is to low, testosteron, [nmol/l 12-35] ?..?.=19.0) is ok
progesteron, [nmol/l 0.89-3.88]     =  <0.64)......[this result made me giving the progesteron  the benefit  of the doubt ]......so its intresting it did not help but even 'harm' to get it on normal level  (0.89)
FSH U/l 3-15                               =7.0
sex HBG, nmol/l 20-70 ?............=42
LH, U/l 1-8...................................=5,8blood.....
Hemoglobine , nmol/l 8.5-11.......=8.8
Ige ku/l <114....... ?.....................=9
My Ige before desensblstn Was 12 now 9  this looks intresting  , but does not ?say?  a lot. ****
since patients can experience  strong reactions with Ige levels that indicate opposites.Thats exactly so interesting with our allergy. It does not follow the usual  Ige interpretation strategy. For exact explanation of this paradox ask your own specialist.

again about progesterone:
> WIKI ?Dexters patient was completely treated (COMPLETELY TREATED ??!!) By 5 to 10 miligrames norethisterone Well?.: treated for sex related headaches or pois??  And in witch intervals the tablets are taken. And also in the days without sex? What is the effect on the organism on the long term?   Is there anybody that has spoken to dr. Dexter or his  patient, and !!! how  the present situation is of that patient. Is there any administrator of any poisforum that keeps monitoring the others progesteron  adepts.
> ?Certainly POIS Sr. member of poiscenter writes in
poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=74.msg476#msg476   Dosage 5-15 mg about 1.5. Hours before orgasm but no longer as 12 hrs.
Others, (cant remember the source, sorry)?.do take a tablet also after the sex, but how long after is not mentioned.
Dear  pois fellows?Please let us document this experiments more precise from now on.  I and you and we are walking  complete in the dark now.

Pois and isolation even in the own group: I like to take advantage to come in contact with other dutch patients . In the start to therapy 2004/6 I was promised to be united with the others, but during the cure never an attempt is done to unite the ones who wanted this. A lot did not dare to face the others  was the awnser, i doubt if all of  the dutch are so shy even for their own pois mates. Maybye also other  research convenient reasons will be the cause I never brought in contact with a nother.
Dus jongens, mannen  meldt je [weer] bij me . Kan iemand mijn herinnering dat we een keer samen uitgenodigd zouden wordeN bevestigen? Zie mijn diplomatieke antword op een vraag hierover op naakte wetenschappers,

...about this forum ......disapointingly, to me being on this site is   almost nobody did effort to ad a biography part  in his/her profile. May I invite you to change this, and add some info who you are , why not even your hobbies, and the way you got the clue about your pois, single or not, books who helped you sublimate, what keeps you happy against all odds. Our cause to be here could do it with some prettier info too to digest the serious subject better, and makes us feel recogniced also in nicer side of live. :) ^

my own biography:

    Dutch,Virgo (25 august),age >45,  profession paramedical, study philosophy, Pois diagnosed  with links to recurrent herpes  hs2.  I am set free from job obligation, so all time for  hobby's: pipe organ (www.Hauptwerk.com) massage, hi end, Bach,  esspresso making, parfume,cosmology ,facebook, I am Dutch NVVE (exit) member, accepted for assisted fulfilled live, Am glad with every love i get from people around and am never depresst, dissapointed YES but lingeing in depression is a masogistic habit. Not my style. Becouse I have POIS, I am extremely happy with all small gifts in Live, One of them are open people that can give! I meet them often because I am open too. I  like friendly irony, my hero's...Voltaire, David hume, Dame Edna, movy's: Bad day at black rock, Lemming, Arteficial intelligence, the Virgin Queen, I am single, for those it matters I am gay, and had 2 relationships which were nightmares for my partners, the last partner 'engaged' me with prof Waldingers theory, and immediately emigrated far away;>)reading/writing   ironic tekst/literature   is my mental food, speak german , my escape from pois is the typical Freudian, enjoy food like   Apfelstrudl mit  Schlagsahne, and other grate German  pasty. Favoured place: the Alps, work as volunteer for  people that had a stroke, my favorite friends: emphatic aspergers.....honest people you never get a chance to get bored.

* start to doubt if an allergy itself could not again be a result of other precursor [ design errors in our dna,genes,might we have 2 dna profiles like is already proven in other cases in the the forensic  science....but that is only my intuition/wild guess  8)

(will work out  the other asterisks in later posts)

Dutch p.s.
 M. ( van de propellorfirma), ik kan je niet meer bereiken, Vond je onlangs terug, kon niet meer reageren (je gegevens kwijt)na crash pc. Neem  weer kontaky met me op alsjeblieft.

i look curious forward to your comment, glad to re back  


read allso my 'gunshoot'on Progesterone  see the topic elsewhere here  "hormonal causes'




« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 04:28:45 PM by tantalus »
4 years desensitized, health progr. average 70%  top 90%, ,overreaction stops 3X (herpes+meningeal irritation, sideeffects towards end ( hyperacusis), stopped at 4to1, retrograde after stop,re-entry soon. negative progesterone effect pois. . (new supervised med. trial planned soon) Niacin not tried

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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2012, 04:24:43 AM »
Hello, all. I thought I'd briefly try and explain my own case here. I'm 22 years old, and I've had the symptoms of what I'm now certain is POIS since my mid-teens. The effects come on immediately after ejaculation (if I manage not to carry all the way through to orgasm but still become aroused I experience reduced symptoms). I have both physical and mental ailments - the physical being a general sense of burning pain or tingling throbbing over much of my body, the feeling that I'm hot and buzzing with electricity, as if a warm fog has entered my body and is now under my skin. I have stabbing pains in my knees and back, really stiff muscles and a sore throat that makes it difficult to speak clearly. My eyes burn and I become really, heavily fatigued. Mentally, the fog leaves me totally unable to think with any degree of clarity, which is frightening to someone like myself. I'm a Cambridge graduate and my favoured activities always involved concentration, memory, intellect - all of which are disrupted when I experience this. I feel spaced out and unable to handle even simple tasks. I can't find the words to speak effectively and my short-term memory is useless. Either as a direct result or due to the stress of living with this disorder, I have severe depression and mood swings. I'm also almost always tired; I need to "sleep it off" after an incident but even when I'm reasonably recovered the fatigue doesn't go away.

No matter how many times I say "never again" after masturbating, I still end up doing it every other week or so, and the shame of it really gets to me. My entire life is just one long string of illness and recovery only to know I'll be ill again very soon. Even if I manage not to masturbate, I'll eventually ejaculate in my sleep; there's seemingly no escape. I've been suicidal and desperate not to ejaculate, but I can't get out of the pattern. I heard another sufferer compare it to drug addiction - you know what it's doing to you, but the urge is just so strong. And when I'm very anxious - free-floating anxiety being another symptom of my depression - I have the urge to masturbate more as a relief. It's a terrible circle.

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2012, 12:29:36 PM »
No matter how many times I say "never again" after masturbating, I still end up doing it every other week or so, and the shame of it really gets to me. My entire life is just one long string of illness and recovery only to know I'll be ill again very soon. Even if I manage not to masturbate, I'll eventually ejaculate in my sleep; there's seemingly no escape. I've been suicidal and desperate not to ejaculate, but I can't get out of the pattern. I heard another sufferer compare it to drug addiction - you know what it's doing to you, but the urge is just so strong. And when I'm very anxious - free-floating anxiety being another symptom of my depression - I have the urge to masturbate more as a relief. It's a terrible circle.

I completely agree with this and with those symptoms you mentioned DN. Welcome!  :)
Symptoms (mostly cognitive): brain fog/difficulty thinking, lack of motivation, fatigue, trouble finding the right words, racing thoughts, possible OCD, anxiety, social withdrawal, extreme frustration and irritability, general discomfort.

Born in 1989, and symptoms since I was 14.

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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 12:29:20 AM »
I am a 52 year old male who has been plagued by post orgasm symptoms for most of the past 30-40 years. In recent years/months the symptoms have become simply unbearable.  Following orgasm I experience 7-10 days of lethargy, EXTREME hair-trigger temper and internal aggressive impulses. I snap at family members in very short order, my entire mood is dark and extremely agitated and angry. I can feel every nerve in my body in what can best be described a s a supercharged angst and unease.  I experience a kind of "brainfog" and my general cognitive ability is dramatically lessened.  It makes it REALLY hard to work and stay focussed.  Once I've had one orgasm, I am usually driven to have one or two more until I'm quite literally drained, at which point all of these severe symptoms kick in to high gear and hang around for 7-10 days before wearing off. I feel like a TOTALLY different person when this fog takes over with the intense anger, agitation and wound up feeling of every nerve in my body for days on end can be/IS just unbearable. I'm not at all suicidal, but these symptoms have become absolutely unbearable. I can't continue to go on in this way without some kind of solution. The symptoms seem to have been getting worse and worse over time to the point where I now pay dearly for every single orgasm. I usually can go a week or two or three or sometimes a month or more without any orgasm before my body, at some point, rebels and yearns for a sexual release, which is ALWAYS followed by this same awful cycle - for decades now!  Prometheus had it good! I can't overstate just how much this sucks - the life out of me.

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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 06:23:54 PM »
Brain Fog,
I recognize all your symtoms; the extremely dark mood, feeling angry and agitated, lack of focus, at unease, for no reason.
You are not alone, but it is a rare disease.

We are trying to get research done on this, it's the only way to get answers.
Amongst forum members we now have collected 24,735, we need about 9,000 more.
I have donated 1,000 dollars and preparing a new one before the end of this year.

The link is:
https://rarediseases.org/about/support/research-donations/fg_base_view_p3
In the spot for "Research Fund," hit "Please Select a Research Fund."  It's an alphabetical drop down -- go to P and find Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)

Please donate and get this research started!!

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2012, 10:34:19 PM »
:) THANKS, ROCKY! :)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 12:44:53 AM by demografx »
Usually have major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2012, 07:58:18 AM »
I have an idea.
you have 1000 to donate.
You could put a condition: you donate 1000 only if the members of the forum make an effort to collect 500 by the end of this month (mainly from the new ones that have not yet contributed).
Maybe with small campaigns like this we can make it

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2012, 04:19:15 PM »
Excellent, boissioq!

Let's keep the ideas and ACTION coming!
« Last Edit: December 15, 2012, 09:16:22 PM by demografx »
Usually have major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2012, 01:10:53 AM »
I strongly urge you to fire this doctor QUICKLY. And find an empathetic one. QUICKLY.
Usually have major POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks associated with it.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business.

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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 07:23:27 AM »
New POIS member at nsf.

romies: "My typical symptoms:

onset: 1-2 hrs after orgasm, typically it takes 4-5 days to resolve. the first 2 days can be paralyzing

Very sleepy during the day, even with 10+ hrs of sleep (I normally sleep 8 hrs)
immediately tired after breakfast.

Cognitative:
very poor working memory

ADHD behavior,
Example:I cannot finish unloading a dish-washer under POIS without switching to something else in the middle of it.

Socially withdrawn
      
Emotional
Negative thoughts, low self-esteem, lots of self-criticism
Very Irritable

Low physical energy
max weight reduced by 40-50% in weight training
headache during physical exertion (e.g. running)

Blurred vision

Mild-Flu-like symptoms
     sore throat
     sneezing
     cough

My current daily supplement routine.
upon wake-up: Now-brand NADH 10mg (rocket fuel indeed). no eating for 25-30 mins.
after breakfast: Fish oil, Ginkgo 120mg, Vitamine D 2000IU, Methyl-Guardx1 capsule
            Wellbutrin 100mg SR (being taking this for a year before I discovered the POIS thread)
after lunch: Ginkgo 60mg, Vitamin C, Multi-vitamin
before sleep: Now-brand Arginine+Ornithine 500/250mg x 2 (to reduce ammonia)
                  Loratadine 10mg, ZMA(1 capsule only: 10mg zinc, 5mg Pryidoxine HCL, 150mg Mg), p5p 50mg.

additional Ginkgo, VC and 1 Methyl-Guard after orgasm

I would say this routine eliminated 90% of the cognitive symptoms."
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Taking ginger tea, no wheat, fenugreek+green tea/garlic, saw palmetto, niacin, boswellia, huperzine, B complex and nutmeg. See my treatment summary post for more info: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg3513#msg3513

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2013, 01:35:43 PM »
Hi,
I'm new to this group and found it while googling around about problems I can't really find and answer and a solution to...

I'm a 38 years old guy from Italy, my name is Andrea.

The specific problem is that after an orgasm I have the following symptoms aggravated for 2-3 days, the day after being the worst: muscular/joints/tendons weakness and pains (flu-like), fatigue, light headed, lack of initiative, apathy, lethargy, sense of void in the lower abdomen, sore throat (increased probability to catch viral infections), hard getting out of bed the morning after and dragging myself the entire day, feeling cold.

I say "aggravated" because most of this symptoms are already present to a smaller degree independently from sexual activity, as I'm currently dealing with problems of adrenal fatigue and hormone thyroid resistance at tissues level (hypothiroidism).
Hypoadrenia/Hypothyoridism give me CFS/Fybromyalgia like symptoms. An orgasm just seems to make this much worse for at least a couple of days, the day after being the worst. Sex is definitively the most powerful trigger for these symptoms, but they can somewhat increase after overexercising, excessive sun exposure or sauna, lack of sleep.

I've probably always thought that it was "normal" to feel exhausted to some degree after an O, but as I've been solving issues lately and feeling better in many ways I've realized that this isn't normal at all. It's probably been like this since my puberty, just gradually got worse in a way that couldn't be perceived, but I've taken consciousness of the specific POIS problem only recently.

I also have a history of depression, and I responded decently to SSRI (fluoxetine) which I used for 11 years with few breaks and relapses, until I was able to get rid of it 2 years ago.

I suffer of allergies (pollens, dut mites, molds), and also food sensitiveness (gluten, casein - not celiac).
I am currently following a protocol with T3 thyroid hormone called CT3M (T3 cyrcadian method), plus adrenal support (pregnenolone, adaptogenic herbs) and lots of supplements (vitamins, minerals, aminoes...), see end of post.

My sex hormones are OK (total/free testosterone, SHGB, estradiol, progesterone).
My prolactin is in range last labs (<20)
Currently the main hormonal lab issue is low salivar DHEA, cortisol is almost normal but could ideally be a little higher.

I believe my symtpoms are somehow related to a dopamine depletion, but neither DLPA nor L-Tyrosine seem to make a big difference. I'm going to try Mucuna Pruriens (L-DOPA) to see if that helps.

In Chinese Traditional Medicine post-sex fatigue is related to kidney weakness, so again adrenals. I get some acupuncture sessions to work on kidneys points with no big results for this particular problem.

I try not to have sex more often than once a week and the symptoms occur nonetheless, clearly this is not normal for a 38 years old guy, and this has been happening for years now.
When I am low energy obviously sex drive is not on top of my thoughts. But as soon as I have some energy libido increases and creates a kind of tension that calls for being released. This currently might happen once a week, but it changes depending on the general condition. Unfortunately that also causes the side effects I described in the post and brins me again to ground zero for awhile.

I've also tried semen retention techniques but stopped them, both because they actually didn't help much (it seems that orgasm and not ejaculation aggravate symptoms), and because I felt they were a bit unnatural and possibly unhealthy.

I've been practicing tai chi chuan and various meditation techniques for years, this all helped coping better with the many challenges life offers (health and more).

I've come across here now searching for some fresh ideas besides the adrenal fatigue paradigm I've become familiar with.
Glad to find some friendly and helpful people on NSF, and eventually here.

This is my current protocol, but it continuously change based on my needs;

- Thyroid Hormones (T3):

35mcgT3@4AM+20mcgT3@11AM+20mcgT3@6PM (total 75mcg per day)

- Adrenal support:

Pregnenolone 50mg
Ashwagandha/Phytisone complex (adaptogenics herbs) complex 3*2cps
Adrenergize (adrenal cortex extract) 2cps

- Aminos:

L-Tyrosine 2*3g (AM, noon)
5-HTP 100mg
MSM 3*3000mg
N-Acetyl-Cysteine 1000mg
L-Lysine   2*1g
L-Methionine 500mg

- Minerals:

Magnesium (citrate) 1000mg
Zinc (gluconate) 2*50mg
Copper (gluconate) 4mg
Chromium (picolinate) 500mcg
Selenium 200mcg
Humic & Fulvic Acids (liquid organic minerals)

- Vitamins:

B Complex - 2 cps, each one containing:

   Thiamin (as Thiamin HCl) 110 mg.
   Riboflavin (as Riboflavin 5'-Phosphate Sodium) 10 mg.
   Niacin (130 mg as Niacinamide and 10 mg as Niacin) 140 mg.
   Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxal 5'-Phosphate) 10 mg.
   Folate (as L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolate from L-5-Methyltetrahydrofolic Acid, Glucosamine Salt) 400 mcg.
   Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 400 mcg.
   Biotin 400 mcg.
   Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate) 110 mg.
   Choline Citrate 80 mg.


Vit. B5 3*3000mg
P-5-P 3*50mg

Vit. A 10000UI
Vit. C 3*1000mg + Citrus bioflavonoids
Vit. D3 5000UI
Vit. E (mixed tocopherols) 400mg
Vit. K2 (MK-7) 2*100mcg

- Others:

Ubiquinol 2*50mg
Lipoic Acid 2*300mg
Fish Oil 2*1000mg
Krill Oil 2*1000mg
Curcumin+Bioperine 3*1000mg
Stinging Nettles root extract 2*500mg
Quercetine 2*1g

Probiotics (as needed)
Digestive enzymes (every meal)

Zeolite (for chelating heavy metals)

- Things I'm going to add soon:

Niacin (when needed)
TMG
Mucuna Pruriens
Fenugreek+Garlic?

- Things I used to take in the last couple of years and not using now or dropped for several different reasons:

DLPA (DL-Phenylalanine)
Isocort
7-Keto-DHEA
Seriphos (Phosphatidylserine)
Deer Antler Velvet
Melatonin
AKG-Arginine
Iodine (liquid)
Coral Calcium
Megafood Bloobuilder (iron+C+B12+folate+beetroot)
Kelp tablets
Cat's claw
Berberine
Bentonite clay
...

- Meds used when necessary:
fexofenadine (the least effective dose for calming seasonal allergy)

- Meds I used in the past (and hopefully won't need anymore):
fluoxetine (for 11 years with few breaks, up to a couple of years ago)

I hope we can exchange valuable information and help making our lives better.

Thank you!
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