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Is just thinking enough?
« on: November 13, 2017, 12:03:45 AM »
Hi all,

I get that ejaculation obviously causes POIS, but I know for me, and I've seen for others as well, that merely the thought of it is enough to impact my mind and my feelings.  Even just thinking about dating is enough to bring discomfort and disorientation to my mind and I feel a tightness in my chest.  This tightness makes it nearly impossible to exercise and to focus until I can let go of it and start to think about something else.

I have had to seek chastity and abstinence because Niacin does seem to help with POIS directly, it doesn't seem to help with this.

Is this the start of the o pathway and so it's all become inflamed?  Is this just mental?  (I'm not sure that I believe that this is)


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Re: Is just thinking enough?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 07:55:19 AM »
Hi Daysleeper,

POIS is very complicated, and as I have already suggested, I think that at some point, we develop secondary emotional problems from long term POIS.  Some develop a chronic depression secondary to POIS, some get facilitated anxiety, and so on.  It is a vicious circle, because POIS in itself triggers those psychological symptoms, but the whole life situation created by POIS just make these psychic symptoms chronic, and present even out of POIS acute phase.

I believe that what you describe may be anxiety crisis, because you know where this will all lead - to POIS.  Just anticipating POIS is enough to get anxious, because it's a living nightmare.   It is just my hypothesis, here, but just the fear of having an upcoming POIS attack is enough to get anxious, and even make a anxiety attack.   In the past, when I had no real control over my anxiety, there have been times I would make a full blown anixety crisis just by thinking about the idea of death.... so I know how powerful our thoughts may be over our body.  So, for me, it is totally possible to have a anxiety attack, complete with physical symptoms, only by thinking about having a POIS attack. 

I think the key is to discern between symptoms of anxiety alone vs anxiety symptoms during a complete POIS attack.  Look for symptoms you don't have when thinking about dating, and that are always present in actual POIS, after an ejaculation.
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Re: Is just thinking enough?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 12:20:55 PM »
Hi Quantam,

I think you are correct, I'm actually going through and assessing all of my anxities and social hang-ups now.  I think that there is a lot of secondary psychological effects that are currently impacting me. For instance I don't like making plans, I fear to plan things because I didn't know what caused POIS so there were days where I just wasn't able to think or emotionally connect, I get anxious at social events for the same reason.  I have beliefs that people don't like me because I'm awkward, but really I don't think I am but my body so desperately wants to avoid POIS that it is easier to just simply avoid people and plans that will so often fall through.

I just heard about this a few days ago, but I've started to do affirmations and visualizations to help me to improve these issues.   I feel that new brain synapsis are being formed when I do this.  I feel the anxiety resisting as I go after it, but usually when I focus my mind and my heart I am able to overcome.  If you pray, please pray!  These secondary symptoms, I believe have really given me a failure to launch so to speak. 

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Re: Is just thinking enough?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 09:27:01 PM »
Try guided meditation 2 x day. Better at waking up and sunset. Before eating.

My anxiety is fully managed with that.

Also by chanting OM 3 times. And by alternate nostril breathing.

I believe all of the above work brcause they have an effect on the vagus nerve. Mm

A good website to find all of the above is


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Helped by Immunocal (I explained how to take in previous posts).  Significant relief day one and day two.  It affects neurotransmitters!


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Re: Is just thinking enough?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 04:44:05 PM »
Hi Raba,

Thank you.  I had one more question though.  When I lust, not just thinking I feel a burning in my urethra below the balls and it seems like it radiates out, it feels like it is some sort of liquid moving.  I don't know if this is seamen or not, but if it is could that possibly cause POIS as well?