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Abstinence
« on: June 23, 2017, 09:01:08 AM »
Hi guys, I am trying to reduce the number of orgasm to one day per week, I'm not taking medication for POIS and currently the only way to alleviate the burden is to have less orgasms, but it's hard to resist sometimes, any advice for better abstinence? I also noted that aggressivity is enanched with abstinence and I am a little more sociable but I can't say if this is because I don't trigger POIS or is a direct effect of abstinence, I am 23 and libido is sometimes high, abstinence is a difficult challenge, I hope it gets easier with time.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 03:26:59 PM »
Are you having a hard time because of addiction to porn or do you have very high libido.
If it is porn I can suggest some things.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 03:39:03 PM »
Are you having a hard time because of addiction to porn or do you have very high libido.
If it is porn I can suggest some things.

I think is a mixture of the two things, lately I masturbate only with porn but I have POIS also if I don't use porn, advice are always apprecciated however.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 08:34:24 AM »
I'm not sure if this will help.... and of course my situation is completely different, but I haven't masturbated in years now, because I'm married, and I have found that it is much better to have sex in person than to masturbate. So when I may be tempted, I think, "No, as much as I am tempted, if I do this, I'm screwed with the wife for at least another week, so better to wait".

It's not that I have a stronger will than anybody, but I find this incentive to "reward myself, and my wife" by waiting it out, helps.

If, or at least when you have a girlfriend you could try to use that trick. If or when you don't, perhaps you could devise a "special night" with yourself. One that is perhaps involved enough that it would take a little more time and effort to set it up, therefore reducing the impulse to just do it.

Crazy idea maybe, but, we are not "normal" after all. :) :)

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 09:00:39 AM »
I'm not sure if this will help.... and of course my situation is completely different, but I haven't masturbated in years now, because I'm married, and I have found that it is much better to have sex in person than to masturbate. So when I may be tempted, I think, "No, as much as I am tempted, if I do this, I'm screwed with the wife for at least another week, so better to wait".

It's not that I have a stronger will than anybody, but I find this incentive to "reward myself, and my wife" by waiting it out, helps.

If, or at least when you have a girlfriend you could try to use that trick. If or when you don't, perhaps you could devise a "special night" with yourself. One that is perhaps involved enough that it would take a little more time and effort to set it up, therefore reducing the impulse to just do it.

Crazy idea maybe, but, we are not "normal" after all. :) :)

I think it's the best way to deal with it.

Today I went to an urologyst and I mentioned my POIS, he minimized that and called it a psychological problem because I never had sex, this is so frustrating because I am nearly sure the problem is with orgasm indipendently of sex or masturbation.

He also denined the existence of POIS and when I said of people who have physical symptoms he insisted that it's impossible to be allergic to his own semen, very depressing.

He warned me about abstinence because it can cause prostatic enlargement and I have chronic prostatitis, but two times I managed to stay in abstinence for two months, I am sure the organism had a system of rycicling sperm without having the prostate exploding. ;D

I will continue to stay in abstinence by the way and masturbate one day per week, it seems to me a good compromise considering I need two day to recover in most cases.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 09:03:44 AM by Unvers »

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 04:57:17 PM »
Hi guys, I am trying to reduce the number of orgasm to one day per week, I'm not taking medication for POIS and currently the only way to alleviate the burden is to have less orgasms, but it's hard to resist sometimes, any advice for better abstinence? I also noted that aggressivity is enanched with abstinence and I am a little more sociable but I can't say if this is because I don't trigger POIS or is a direct effect of abstinence, I am 23 and libido is sometimes high, abstinence is a difficult challenge, I hope it gets easier with time.

I can limit myself to about one every two weeks if i dont have access to porn so i use two porn blockers simultaneously. One of them is keeping me from quoting your response to my last post. I have been using them for a while now, i can help you with configuring them so you dont get past their blocks.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2017, 05:45:12 PM »

Today I went to an urologist and I mentioned my POIS, he minimized that and called it a psychological problem...


Sadly, whether it's with a urologist or some other kind of medical professional, all too often this is exactly the very disappointing treatment we all get :(


« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 05:57:25 PM by demografx »
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2017, 05:58:08 PM »
At the end I choosed Saturday to be the day because I have the Sunday to recover without having to work.

Saturday is passed here in Italy and I had it two times, first time I felt so good and the symptoms of POIS were greatly reduced, out of curiosity I decided to have a second time and sadly and expectedly the thing was more depressing and brain fogging, now I think I will take an integrator with vitamin B6 among the other things, I read here it was useful for some.

Now I have to wait another week, the high libido of the twenties isn't an ally in this task.

I tried pornblockers many years ago such as K9, now I feel more control and for now can do without them, thanks anyway.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 06:01:50 PM by Unvers »

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 07:46:38 AM »
Sunday afternoon and still in POIS, I hope tomorrow will get better.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2017, 06:21:45 AM »
I created also an account on the Nofap forum, the majority of the users there are porn addicts who search recovery but many speak also about depression, anxiety and post orgasmic problems, maybe there are also poisers there who ignore their condition and think the problem is porn or masturbation and not orgasm in general.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 01:58:14 AM »
I am following the system of having only one day per week to have orgasms but I dind't limited the number of orgasms in that day, now I am at three and fighting POIS with nicotine, caffeine, antidepressant and integrators, I was very depressed after first orgasm, now feel a little brain fogged, the thing that after second orgasm I tend to feel better is very weird however.

Physical symptoms only tired eyes, I'm not sure there's even an increase in blurred vision, I have already myopia and blurred vision as side effect of antidepressant medication, so it's very difficult to determine if POIS trigger also blurred vision but remembering from the past I think maybe there is a little effect, no other physical effetcs apart from these.

The bigger challenge is however social anxiety and OCD that tend to be worsen under POIS, I hope the antidepressant can compensate it.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2017, 03:37:39 AM »
POIS is having the best despite my efforts, I feel sad.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2017, 10:31:46 AM »
Which type of antidepressants you taking ???
pls don't expose me.
AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 11:34:21 AM »
Which type of antidepressants you taking ???

Paroxetine.


Guys I managed to have 4 orgasms and now I feel very bad and have also to go to work, smoking is the only relief in this moment, I also took an integrator with B6 but nothing, I feel shitty anyway.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 12:10:01 PM »
It never helped me
pls don't expose me.
AFTER SEX/MASTERBATION (FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS)
1)BACK NECK PAIN GOES TO DOWN SPINE
2)NERVES LIKE SQUEEZED OUT
3)MORNING FEET NERVES PAIN
4)NASAL INFLAMMATION
5)BRAIN FOG
6)DEPRESSION
7)HIGH SUGAR LEVELS (TRIED INSULIN FOR 1 YEAR MAKE ME MORE SICK

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2017, 06:34:06 PM »
The nightmare is finished, in the end I had 5 orgasms, symptoms of depression, anxiety and OCD worsened but I managed to survive the day, antidepressants and therapy help me with these problems but POIS reinforce them, the important thing is that I managed to restrict orgasm to one day per week and even if in that day I have more than one orgasm I don't think it's a big problem, I have to verify if with only one orgasm the recovery time is inferior but I don't think so, more orgasms tend to worsen the symptoms but I don't noted important changes in the recovery time that is 2-3 days generally.


Maybe I need a longer abstinence like some guys on the Nofap forum who abstain for months or years but they do it for other reasons.
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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 05:51:01 AM »
Guys I love this thing of abstinence so much, self discipline and control, I think I will continue but I am also curious of resolve my POIS.

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Re: Abstinence
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 01:41:45 AM »
Anyone has a treatment to suggest me to begin with? As far as I understand it goes a bit random in finding the right one.

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2017, 06:24:18 AM »

Anyone has a treatment to suggest me to begin with? As far as I understand it goes a bit random in finding the right one.


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« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 06:29:04 AM by demografx »
10 years of significant POIS-reduction, treatment consisting of daily (365 days/year) testosterone patches.

TRT must be checked out carefully with your doctor due to fertility, cardiac and other risks.

40+ years of severe 4-days-POIS, married, raised a family, started/ran a business

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 07:12:40 AM »

Anyone has a treatment to suggest me to begin with? As far as I understand it goes a bit random in finding the right one.


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But my physician doesn't believe in my POIS!
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