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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2011, 10:25:16 AM »
Victor,

Your doctor that originally directed you to XN must really be commended for her effort and concern. So many just say they can't help you.

She, it was a she wasn't it, should receive some recognition.

can you send me her data? We have a database for POIS related assistance in all parts of the world. The program is a little rough still, I need to get time to clean it up, but it's at http://poiscenter.com/db/collaborator_list.php. Enter her data there so others in your area may be able to go to someone "useful". Also at some point, if we find that XN is a key in all of this, I would like to give her the credit for taking the initiative.

Any key advances on POIS will go into history, as we are at the beginning of a solution.

If you go to the database and have problems entering her data, send it to me via PM and I'll be sure it gets in there.


WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2011, 10:34:03 AM »
Victor,

Your doctor that originally directed you to XN must really be commended for her effort and concern. So many just say they can't help you.


I couldnt agree more.  Great idea Daveman.

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2011, 10:45:47 AM »
I tried to give my donation but my "card doesn't work on international websites"  >:( I will send it with another card soon so ! But you are right, we really all need to take part of it at our own scale  :) each $ is welcome !

Habibou, let me know as soon as your donation goes through!  I will update the Donation Tally in the POIS Center forum.

EDIT: I just saw on the NSF forum that your donation went through.  Yayyy!
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 01:11:16 PM by B_Daniel »

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2011, 02:11:03 PM »
100$ isn't a lot but it is a good start !

I have bought "Nicobion 500mg" (french version) to take orally which is same as vitamine PP/ vitamine B3, Niacin, nicotinamide.  Will update  :)
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Daveman

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2011, 03:46:39 PM »
100$ isn't a lot but it is a good start !

I have bought "Nicobion 500mg" (french version) to take orally which is same as vitamine PP/ vitamine B3, Niacin, nicotinamide.  Will update  :)

It's a great start. If everybody put $100 we'd be there in no time!
WITHOUT RESEARCH THERE WILL BE NO CURE!
Sessions 5 to 9 days, mostly Flu-like, joints, digestion problems, light cognitive.
Niacin has changed my lif though, now 1 day MAX.
Somewhere in this interaction with Niacin is the answer!

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2011, 08:08:57 PM »
Xanthiol Nicotinate is a form of niacin (Vitamin B3) which is a vasodilator used in peripheral vascular disorders and insufficiency.  Also has been used (in pill form as niacin) to treat short-term memory disorders, lack of concentration, attention and vigilance (works possibly because it dilates constricted cerebral vessels).




This would explain why garlic works against POIS. Because garlic is a vasodilator too, and it cointains a lot of Vitamin B3.

Garlic also lowers blood pressure levels due to its vasodilator properties and may be useful for patients with mild hypertension.
In addition, garlic inhibits the formation of blood clots.

http://www.vegetarian-nutrition.info/herbs/garlic.php

I can recall that more than 3 months ago i ate two cloves of raw garlic and then i had 2 O. soon after i took them. My POIS was nearly inexistent in that case. I have never repeated the "experiment".

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2011, 09:26:06 PM »
Thought I'd share a find...

"Niacin is necessary for healthy skin, normal working of the stomach and intestinal tract, caring for the nervous system, and production of the sex hormones."; and
"Niacin has been important to the field of orthomolecular nutrition for its use supporting the higher functions of the brain and cognition."; and
"While niacin was originally helpful for the dementia of pellagra, high doses have been used to support normal mood and psychological function."

Bold is my edits...From the following site

http://www.womens-health-symmetry.com/niacin.html


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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2011, 09:26:36 PM »
Hi, Daveman!

In point 2 are you refering to when you had forgotten to take XN before so as to prevent POIS? The question is related to point 1. If XN stops your POIS, you wouldn't have POIS to try the XN.

I guess what you mean is that taking it too late (i.e. after the orgasm) it doesn't work much.
Yes, you are right.

I assume you don't take XN daily either right? Just when you know you are going to have an orgasm.
Yes, you are right again and indeed this is very important point. I believe that only relatively big doses have the effect (though they are big they are in the range of allowed doses that are written in instruction for XN for example), I don't believe that small and often niacin doses will help. But these are my beliefs that come from experiments on myself.

Victor

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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2011, 09:33:08 PM »
Common herbs with vasodilatory actions:
? Achillea millefolium (Yarrow)
? Allium sativum (Garlic)
? Amoracia rusticana (Horseradish)
? Berberis vulgaris (Barberry)
? Cimicifuga racemosa(Black cohosh)
? Coleus forskholii (Coleus)
? Coptis spp. (Goldenthread)
? Crataegusspp. (Hawthorn)
? Eleutherococcus senticosus(Siberian ginseng)
? Ginkgo biloba(Ginkgo)
? Melissa offiicnalis (Lemon Balm)
? Olea europaea (Olive leaf)
? Panax ginseng(Chinese Ginseng)
? Petroselinum crispum (Parsley)
? Scutellaria baicalensis (Baical Skullcap)
? Tilia europaea (Linden Flower)
? Trigonella foenum-graecum (Fenugreek)
? Urtica dioica (Nettles)
? Valeriana officinalis(Valerian)
? Viburnum spp. (Cramp, Bark, Black Haw)
? Veratrum viride (American Hellebore)
? Verbena officinalis (Vervain)
? Xanthoxylum americanum (Prickly Ash)
? Zingiber officinale(Ginger)

Is it too much of a co-incidence that a lot of the herbs on this list are substances that people have tried with limited success? Could the success be due to the different tolerences that people have to Niacin? (i.e Some people require more to provide a 'Flush').....Hmmm...very very interesting discussions. As I stated on the other forum, I am very cautiously optimistic about this.

I am trying some Niacin 100 mg, twice daily at the moment. Can't try the O at the moment, though until the weekend. Damned Meetings and Work. ...Will keep you posted. Would love to hear if others are trying this stuff also.

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2011, 09:35:49 PM »
Victor,

Your doctor that originally directed you to XN must really be commended for her effort and concern. So many just say they can't help you.

She, it was a she wasn't it, should receive some recognition.

can you send me her data? We have a database for POIS related assistance in all parts of the world. The program is a little rough still, I need to get time to clean it up, but it's at http://poiscenter.com/db/collaborator_list.php. Enter her data there so others in your area may be able to go to someone "useful". Also at some point, if we find that XN is a key in all of this, I would like to give her the credit for taking the initiative.

Any key advances on POIS will go into history, as we are at the beginning of a solution.

If you go to the database and have problems entering her data, send it to me via PM and I'll be sure it gets in there.
Agree with you. I've entered some data about her (Bruslenko Olga Vasilevna) at the link you provided.

Victor
3 day POIS sessions, brain fog, heartbeat, digestion problems. Currently using XN for 95% relief from POIS symptoms.

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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2011, 10:56:19 PM »
I am trying some Niacin 100 mg, twice daily at the moment. Can't try the O at the moment, though until the weekend. Damned Meetings and Work. ...Will keep you posted. Would love to hear if others are trying this stuff also.

I just bought some Niacin too.  It looks as if a lot of us have gone out and bought B3.  But nobody is writing in about their recent experimentation!  Are we are all waiting for the weekend to O!?!

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« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2011, 12:52:44 AM »
I am trying some Niacin 100 mg, twice daily at the moment. Can't try the O at the moment, though until the weekend. Damned Meetings and Work. ...Will keep you posted. Would love to hear if others are trying this stuff also.

I just bought some Niacin too.  It looks as if a lot of us have gone out and bought B3.  But nobody is writing in about their recent experimentation!  Are we are all waiting for the weekend to O!?!
Yes, seems so :) We are weekend men ;)

Victor
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Re: Xanthiol Nicotinate - Benefits, Risks and Function in POIS
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2011, 03:33:05 PM »
I really dont see anyone at all selling injectable xanthinol nicotinate anywhere.  Lots of people have already tired experimenting with niacin on the NSF without any luck at all, I would not waist your money on oral niacin or xanthinol nicotinate tablets.  Victor already said that the oral stuff has no effect and you need to inject xanthinol nicotinate for it to work.  We really need to test this at least once, has anyone found any injectable xanthinol nicotinate forsale anywhere?

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2011, 03:42:52 PM »
what sideeffects did your doctor tell you to watch out for using xanithol nicotinate

how do you spell xanithol nicotinate in russian  i think i found a legitimate ukrainian pharmacy that is willing to ship around the world and take major currencies
pharmalad.com
what do you guys think.
pharmalad has "ksantinola nikotinat", which means xanthinol nicotinate.  I cant read anything on the site so I dont know if they are offering it in tablets or ampules for injection.  It is not commonly taken in injection form so I would suspect that they are offering it in tablet form.

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2011, 08:44:58 PM »
they dont have injections they have tablets, i emailed them about injections and they haven't email me back.  I tried a different ukraine online pharmacy and found out you need a prescription to get injectables. i think the key now will be to find out a country that has xn injections without prescription. 
the closest thing i found is a vitamin B complex with niacinmide.   
http://www.b12-shot.com/#bcomp