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You are right demografx, prescription med has sometime huge side affects.  My deep prayer for your best health.   POIS is huge debilitating affects my quality of life like nothing else.  I have tried certain methods and sometimes have born severe side affects and not even prescription med but mere technique.  I think just now by doing cryotherapy at health place (to -200F) I have damaged my nerves permanently.  My 2-3 year of good progress has halted but now gone to worse than where I was ever in life.  Even Niacin which generally harmless, but some docs are very against it, they warn that flush will damage liver but to me that flush a tiny bit helps, it rushes blood.  These pills I hear dont have a delivery method built in them, like measured dosing.  If you take vitamin pill high dose and poof it will goes and can even be harmful with more side affect because so study is done, unlike a prescription med which gets tested to act for certain period of time in a measure and gradual manner and so the risk what there is is there but at least one you know.  But yes I hear you and that makes me sad that no matter what you do, there is no solution for us.  It is sad, everyone enjoy sex as if universal acceptance for happiness standard, but for some of us, it has become a curse.  I cannot stay away from it no matter how I try, but when I do it, it is torture like.  I have started Serrapeptase, I am hoping it can help the neurology of my fingers and peripheral organs, will let know if anything good I feel.  Has anyone else tried Serra...?
 

...POIS need a prescription strength medicine...


I chose a “prescription strength medicine” and it works (not 100%) but there are risks/side effects. My sperm count went to Zero, for example and I don’t know if it’s possibly contributed to my heart probs (5-way bypass).
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...POIS need a prescription strength medicine...


I chose a “prescription strength medicine” and it works (not 100%) but there are risks/side effects. My sperm count went to Zero, for example and I don’t know if it’s possibly contributed to my heart probs (5-way bypass).


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I have found POIS to be deeply rooted in how brain works and how brain can be "tricked" to work.  Brain controls how our bodies behave.  I believe 100% your experience.  There have been many many methods similar over my course of experiments to find a solution.   Most of them work successfully 1-2-3 time but then they stop working and brain returns to its learned behavior and my POIS come back to 7 day full intensity.  I think POIS need some drastic mental "shake" not a small therapy it needs strong "reset" for how our brains have become to work. 

I have grown pesismistic on POIS cure.  Vitamin cannot do anything to pois.  Vitamin is too light, low dose high dose, nothing.  Yes eat good eat healthy all that good but it will not cure POIS.  POIS need a prescription strength medicine and maybe even combine with behavior response therapy, that is why I am interested in LDN low dose maybe that can reset how our brain treats immune response.
   

A fellow POISer told me that he has got good results with this method. He said that he was feeling surprisingly good the 1st day, the 2nd day however he started to feel bad again. He was surprised because it did not seem to be like a normal POIS episode.

I am sure this way of self-stimulation releases a different chemistry and our body reacts differently to it.
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A fellow POISer told me that he has got good results with this method. He said that he was feeling surprisingly good the 1st day, the 2nd day however he started to feel bad again. He was surprised because it did not seem to be like a normal POIS episode.

I am sure this way of self-stimulation releases a different chemistry and our body reacts differently to it.
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Hi Sonof, did you tested regular mastrubation  while you on choline isonitol?
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That Familiar Feel / Re: Symptoms worse after urination?
« Last post by Meshal on Today at 07:36:00 AM »
yes i think so too, i think its because after ejaculation your penis is stuffed and clogged, when u try to urinate some of the urine will go backwards or damage some valve or even burst it.

then hell breaks loose.

I get that too, urinating after ejaculation seems different from a regular urination. but I've never felt a change in my symptoms after an urination, strange.
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Maybe there is a link between testosterone and choline.
Maybe choline is pumped to keep T homeostais.
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What is POIS / Re: Very strange
« Last post by uhtred sonof on February 21, 2018, 09:03:58 PM »
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/men-does-frequent-ejaculation-cause-hangover

http://bdsmwiki.info/Drop

Relevant links to similar phenomena across multiple communities. Sex and orgasm is where mind and body meet so I don't think it's crazy to think about what kind of orgasms we're having or how different types of sex or porn or our own psychology can affect them.
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What is POIS / Re: Very strange
« Last post by Unvers on February 21, 2018, 08:06:13 PM »
Hello Unvers, have you monitored your breathing during and after the Orgasm (and compared this episode to others)? Have you noticed any difference at all?

How is your breathing when you are in POIS? This is another important question. Have you tried GABA? Maybe you would like to go over the forum and look for more info about it but I think it helps people with your specific symptoms. You should tell your doctor if you have considered it.

If POIS is related to the vagus nerve, you should take note of your feelings and your breathing. The withdrawal theory is interesting as well

I didn't pay much attention to breathing but was normal for what I noted, I have to study the theory of the vagus nerve.

Never tried GABA, thanks for the info.

I am using antidepressant fluoxetine for depression, pregabalin (maybe is this GABA?) for anxiety and niacine and ginko biloba for brain fog, I tend to experience anxiety and depression even when not in POIS but rarely brain fog, in POIS they are all worst, another problem is itchy eyes but I can tolerate it without medication I think.
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General Alternative Causes and Treatments of POIS / Re: Acetylcholine infusion
« Last post by uhtred sonof on February 21, 2018, 07:05:46 PM »
Those choline deficiency symptoms are incredibly familiar. I started taking choline by luck - in the form of choline-inositol capsules that I bought for some reason but never used. After learning that inositol is a form of niacin I wanted to see if they would help me. I immediately experienced an improvement in my symptoms, but I wasn't able to definitively isolate the cure: http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=2609.0

I was also diagnosed with Dysautonomia - I'm not sure if it's the cause or effect of my POIS as they sort of happened in tandem. Like yours, my autonomic specialist also recommended yoga amongst other things, but did not mention anything about choline, so I find this interesting. More and more I'm wondering if it's in fact the choline that's helping me so much. May I ask what else you've been prescribed and if you can go into a little more detail regarding the breathing method?
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